Raiding seems like the worst activity to do. Drops are terrible and underwhelming. Most people just wish personal loot. Back or a way to set up the loot rules prior raid start. Cheers
The chance of this is like 1 out of a million my man, people are greedy, even when they dont need the item, they’ll keep it anyways to piss people off, happens a lot.
i just run m plus do my raid weekly and be off mean pray box does not drop tresh haha cant wait catalyst
What I really enjoy about the new loot system is the pass button. I finally can say xmxm ok I don’t need this so I am passing on it.
I agree, I’m 18 bosses in with no loot at the moment. I don’t feel rewarded and it’s making me not want to raid. No fail safe mechanic either so RNG can screw you hard. Even gacha games got a fail safe
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I’ve got 2 items from 39 boss kills (normal and heroic)
I’ve said it once and will say it again, this system is absolutely dreadful, the feeling you have from doing a full normal run and 6/8 heroic to get nothing is horrific, it completely takes the fun out of raiding. (Be honest with yourself, you only raid after the first clear for gear)
I don’t have an issue at all with the need/greed system, what I have an issue is, is the lack of items combined with the lack of drops for all classes due to the nature of group loot.
I’ve had two entire normal runs with not a single mail item drop or hunter tier token… While seeing people get 4-5 items in one run and getting 4 set within 2 weeks.
From what I understand their is no calculation for loot to drop corresponding to your raid comp.
I’m not a hardcore raider but I’ve done all heroic and some mythic since BFA, the general feeling from 95% of the players I’ve raided with this expansion has been distain for this change, to be frank it’s pathetic and pandering to the elite individuals of which is disrespectful to the rest of the 95% of the playerbase.
I don’t often post on here but this change has from what I’ve seen been received extremely negatively and blizzard needs to take action or at least acknowledge this issue urgently.
It’s also clear the system is failing if your main source of usable items is the RNG protection weekly vault.
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You seem to have forgotten that you didnt have dead loot, and the only dissadvantage ot that system was that you couldnt trade higher ilvl gear.
you playing the same game my friend?
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7 mythical, 2 or 3 raids and all dungeons in easy and heroic.
For loot only 2 useless items that i sold 130 PO maybe.
It’s really boring and does not make you want to play especially when you are a healer.
I play pvp ranked but need to wait 1 week everytime…
I got tons of loot from only raiding normal twice so far. Not sure what’s the big outcry. Literally more than twice the loot i would have gotten with personal loot.
What’s your exact point on this? If you happen to have bad luck with Personal Loot, you can also end up clearing the raid twice and still have no loot. The only difference is you hit the need button now.
If you are the only one that can roll for an item this is actually the case. But the moment there is someone else your odds become worse than if it were personal.
Yes, at the cost of other people not recieving loot. Nice logic…
With the same amount of loot drops this just means you were lucky. It just means other players got nothing.
Can’t either make a conclusion over 2 weeks. On low amounts statistics do not work.
Not entirely sure I understand the new need/greed. What’s the point in need/greed if you can’t see the rolls? Just feels like personal loot with extra steps.
Least amount of drama I’ve ever had with loot has always been using masterloot with MS/OS rolls.
It is so frustrating when 3 copies of the same tier token drops and none for the other classes.
Also the total number of loot drops seems quite dismal.
Never did raid with 0 loot.
The problem is that a lot of people in my guild at the start of the expansion want to raid or to try it, so every week there are new people that will roll for loot and will never come back again.
Example:
First week shaman came and won like 5 items never came back again, second week another shaman and priest etc.
I’m not asking for removal of group loot just option for personal or group loot.
Tbh i found personal Loot better myself.
The guild i raid with is startin to think of a loot councel already.
this is not my thing Cuze i have bad XP with any form of masterloot.
I vote personal loot back based on
- My Xp on guilds and fair honest poeple atm are myth 90% of guilds abused the ML or loot cuoncel system.
- Its a mess the roll if u need somthing ur kept exitement weather u win or not.
- I found this Clutter on screen off rolls and in my chat anoying and its just extra spam
- It demotivateds me to raid I hate this loot system Its very demotivation to raid.
- Personal i found feels safe wat u get is urs and u decide the items fate and i am ok with that.
- It leads to forms of ML. ML was removed cuze it was unfair and abused why try again Blizzard ? U and i and many kinow wow commity is no offens corrupt like hell sorry i say it.
-Its not better than personal loot sorry its mess spam and anoyin tension - Its for the top high end guilds a system Yes not casual or heroic guilds
So make ML avble in Mythic raids. And set atleast in tos a rule list aswel wat is ML abuse so we can report poeple if the abuse ML .
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Actually i have heard that they keep it then try to sell it to a member of the group that wanted it for gold !!
They could incentivise clicking Pass or Greed by giving these reasonable rewards gold (more than vendor price of the item), Supplies and / or a currency that allows bonus rolls (collect 5 of these and get a bonus roll).
Eventually everyone is clicking Pass and the loot is just given to someone by rng.