New Realm Connections are Underway

Is merging servers a good idea pre-expansion launch anyway?

Wouldn’t have been better to wait until the population is settled after the initial surge?

I’d assume they’ve taken into account some surge. I don’t think WoW is adding many new players as much as they are keeping old ones, so not sure how much this would affect low pop servers tbh.

All in all this whole thing is being handled like server merging was the new Greek fire tbh

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Sorry, but who says turalyon is low?

If you check raider io population section you will see it’s closer to the top realms than the bottom when it comes to population, if you check wow progress you get similar results, if you do a /who check you get numbers comparable to medium-high pop realms atm.

Cause keep in mind new players doesn’t mean low pop, it simply means people who make new accounts are redirected to a new players realm for their language, it’s a way blizzard uses to repopulate the servers, and normally it works, as far as I recall your realm has been new players for at least a year, before that mine was, and not sure what happened with the label in the last few days, but mine used to be high like a couple of weeks ago, after being new players for a while!

I definitely agree on the AH point, you will get a much more active one, prices will go down a bit on stuff such as bags, stuff that floods the economy on high pops, but you will also sell stuff more easily, and occasional big ticket items usually go for more on high pops than low (BMAH tcg mounts).

However according to the checks I did, realms such as draenor alliance have very few people at peak, less than the realms I mentioned on ally, I think I found like 150 allys at peak on draenor an evening.

@Rowtan: interesting question about the population sweet spot: I did a lot of checks lately (but like a month ago, not sure if some people might’ve come back by now) and I found around 2.500 people on draenor in the evening, kazzak was the one that gave the highest results with 3.800, after that there were realms like darkmoon faire before connection with 400 people total, was one of the lowest, and then there were realms marked as high such as quel’thalas (I know it went down now) with 1.200 people (700 on ally, 500 on horde) or the recently connected anub’arak and nefarian, who had around 650 per faction, I think that’s more or less what blizzard was aiming for, with a few exceptions when they connected small to huge realms.

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This is not over but on a few realms stuff went totally wrong with players losing data and their characters. So its is normal that they fix that before going on, or do u want that stuff to happen to your chars as well?
And also pre patch is coming now soon but for the players who worry, they said they were going to connect all low realms so just wait for that for a bit.

Oh cool … you’ve seen an announcement somewhere that says more connections are coming? Can you link that please?

I think the argument about problems they’ve encountered possibly could be partially correct, and have a bearing on why they’ve postponed/stopped. However, there have been issues connecting realms fairly regularly, and it’s only now they stop when, by all rights, I would have expected them to ramp them up to get them sorted prior to Shadowlands.

Unless they’re having problems getting the pre-patch sorted as well, which wouldn’t surprise me as it feels a bit “delayed” now and there have been hints that there may well be issues there.

What would be nice is some communication from someone who actually knows. I, for one, would much rather be TOLD there was a delay but that things would continue next month, for example, than just this complete wall of silence. This just feels like deliberately ignoring us and hoping we’ll shut up.

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I’ve tweeted warcraftdevs 3 times now politely asking for information for the EU realms. I’d be happy with ‘we’re holding it for now to fix the problems but will continue later’ but no reponse at all. I guess they get a lot of tweets.
Tbh I don’t know if that’s the right department to tweet. I would have thought it would be engineers but I don’t think they have a twitter account.

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Yes, it absolutely is. New expansions always attract new players. The un-connected low-pop realms will be put at a massive disadvantage as that initial wave of newbies arrives and most likely aims for realms listed as high pop instead.

By the time they start connecting realms post-launch, the damage will be long done.

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The German CS twitter tweeted something to the effect of “if future connections happen, they will be posted on the forums. There are none currently planned, and there is no new information that we can share at this time”.

Edit: also:

Yet nothing on the English one. We used to have chats and fun on there but now it’s just announcements. Yet not that particular announcement …

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Do the German realms look like they still need some Connections?

This doesn’t bode well for us. Despite the fact that they said they would connect all low realms and that quite obviously has not yet happened. Quite honestly I feel a bit disappointed in them.

Normally I’m all for supporting Blizzard even when others are having a bit of a bash, because we don’t know the whole story. I’m still holding out a smidgin of hope, simply because we haven’t yet had anything to say more connections aren’t happening for our realms, but I do feel they’ve gone around the customer relations side of things in very much the wrong way, this time.

Simply a “hold on … need to sort some other stuff then we’ll get back to it” would suffice. I’m concerned that, at least for those players who are interested in realm activity and population, when they see this, they’re going to be cutting their losses and just leaving the lower activity realms, like mine, instead of perhaps holding on if they thought there was a possibility of a new connection. Plus the issue of returning/new players as @linaria mentioned.

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There not in as bad shape now as English or French realms are since they were relatively aggressive with connecting German realms, but they could use a few more sure why not…

Arygos or Festung der Stürme could use one for sure.

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Can ye please merge all the RP realms together? That’d be delightful.

…Can’t express how strongly I disagree with this. There needs to be an alternative to AD. If there’s not, people who don’t want to play there have nowhere else to go.

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Why’d you want an alternative to AD though? The non-AD realm should are scarce on RPers, so it’d be beneficial for you guys to join the AD.

Because AD has a specific microclimate that is not everyone’s cup of tea.

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I hope you’re aware that just because a server has people on it, it can still be very very dead. There’s only 2 guilds that can clear new content within decent time, the rest needs all the nerfes on the bosses + full corruption etc etc.

The server is full of cesspool guilds that aren’t doing anything positive for the server. If I want to raid decent end game stuff I have to either go horde, or join a toxic guild. Turalyon (and Doomhammer) used to have many many more guilds that were at least top 500.

Our server is listed as, and has been listed as Low pop for 4 years, apart from the few times it’s listed as “new players” which is even worse…

And so we can RP in Goldshire without being overrun by perverts.

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You got a serious first world problem. Who cares about RP, if there is no player you can RP with.

I am on the last RP realm pool (Sha’Glade Cartel) that has not given any connection to a bigger English counterpart yet. Our server population is on the brink of extinction, because Blizz’ doesn’t feel the necessity to save our realm pool.

On a smaller note, because it was mentioned in a previous post:

It is clear that the responsibilities for the respective communities (English, French, German) are decentraliced. I see regular blue posts in the German forum, also in respect to server merges. Its the admins of the English community specificaly that prefer to stay radio silent, for whatever reason. This is why I don’t think that anything posted in a different language’s forum applies to this English one.

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But the server connections are being handled by technicians in Irvine, with the times they do them this is pretty obvious and they don’t communicate in other forums. Kaivax is often giving updates on the English forums but he too is from the US office. Since other languages are handled by EU CS/CM teams its obvious to why you see discrepancies in communication… the French/German/spanish CM team is basically the same people but there is a separate Russian CM and the communication on those forums is different again. Regardless the EU region is pretty interlinked and you can for sure apply most CM communication in other language forums to the situation on English realms as well.

Anyway, Medivh → Alleria is now connected successfully in the US which means that all outstanding connections are now completed, and we can presume this round of the server connection programme to be completed… outside of china its a 30% reduction form 260 Realms to 182.

For reference the regional split now looks like this:

  • China (CN): 137 Realms
  • Europe (EU): 92 Realms
  • Americas & Oceania (US): 83 Realms
  • Korea (KR): 4 Realms
  • Taiwan (TW): 3 Realms

Still 319 wow realms world-wide even if blizzard doesn’t host Chinese ones.