New Realm Connections are Underway

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I do understand the stated purpose of CRZ, but I think it’s hard to argue that it is having anything close to that effect, when even Alterac Valley runs on a 5-10 seconds delay. Call it “rose-tinted glasses” or whatever, but I don’t remember storming the Wintergrasp gates on a 10s delay.
Relogging, by the way, fixes the lag, within AV , meaning that I’m on the same shard as before, but now my latency is normal.

After discussing this I do understand that it is off-topic from here, as it’s not just an issue of realm population and CRZ, but it is a bigger issue with Racial balancing being less than ideal for years on end (Allied Races not helping), and high-achievers in the game and big guilds all moving to Horde, leaving Alliance completely dead in the water.
This combined with Warmode exacerbated the issue to the degree where World PVP from the EU Alliance side is basically unplayable.
Warmode has turned an imbalance into a vicious circle of there not being enough Alliance players with Warmode On to balance out a CRZ, so less people are likely to turn it on as they would otherwise get swarmed 40 to 1.
Something needs to be done, and it probably has to start from game balance rather than realm pop control.

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Such as Exorcus moving to alliance for SL?

You guys gotta stop with the blatant misinformation and inform yourself before you talk about topics you know nothing about.

Racials have been broken in the past, everybody agrees on that, but the current World First guild themselves said if it were only about racials, they would’ve moved to alliance with BFA.

Then there’s stuff such as Dark Iron Dwarves, Dwarves, Kul Tiras Humans and Nightelves obviously being broken, in a similar fashion how Blood Elves are broken.

The racial debate is a topic ages old and everybody who’s still stuck on it is sadly stuck in the past and desperately needs to update their information.

bloodmallet.com

is a great source for up to date sims on racials, if you’re talking solely about dps.

If you’re talking about utility, alliance has the edge.

956

Well leveling is much faster now so instead of waiting for my dead realms to be connected i am just leveling new alts on full realms.

957

false. offline numbrs dont mean anything. its horde alts parked offline forever

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958

So i got banned from the forum for a few days suggesting in this thread we get rid of realms and get a mega server =/ wtf

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959

but I don’t remember storming the Wintergrasp gates on a 10s delay

Then you clearly didnt play it before they capped how many players that could participate

960

False, i scanned for online numbers only. At any given time there were more players.
Don’t care if they were alts or not, nothing can beat dying realm.
I’d rather have unbalanced realm than a dead one.

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961

The equivalent of Draenor would be Silvermoon though. I wouldn’t recommend Alliance come to Dreanor when you’re still going to have the guilds/playerbase to be with.

https://www.wowrealmpopulation.com/wow-eu-realms-population-horde.php

Especially on the raiding scene there is very little activity for Alliance:-

The most progress a recruiting Alliance guild has made is 5/12M, the rest are mostly Heroic. It’s not really a good destination for an Alliance player.

962

I think that its apparent that realm connections are hard to implement for Blizzard that is why they paused any further connections to focus on the SL release.

It is also apparent that they make a great deal of money from realm transfers so they have no reason to find a real solution for low population realms.

Finally it is also apparent that there are a ton of people many in high ranked guilds profiting from low population realms transferring between them and high population realms and making tons of gold in the process and they are quick to shut down any discussions about solutions for low population realms.

For those reasons i am sure that nothing will really change in the future and only some extreme cases with dead realms being merged for blizzard to not lose those subscribers.

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963

As literally everyone who commented in the thread is telling you, doomhammer is not as dead as you make it out to be.

You’re the only one resorting to insults or telling people to stop or being genrally unpolite on this thread.

I’ve tried to be nice before but I always got treated badly as well, so now I’m gonna be completely honest.

Janek always answered you with stats and I don’t know how he does cause reading answers like this one makes my blood boil.

The stats are all over the place, check on who doomhammer ally, check on who lightbringer ally and you will notice how a REAL dead realm looks like.

Doomhammer ally has boost selling! No dead realm has boost selling, trade chat is completely dead on those.

Now websites: https://raider.io/realms/eu clearly has doomhammer at the top 33% of realms, as in 33% (or so) realms are bigger and 67% or so realms are smaller across all languages in the eu.

https://www.wowprogress.com/realms/rank/eu wow progress reaches a similar conclusion as raider io, while admittedly it’s not been updated for a while, but that can’t be said for raider io.

https://www.wowrealmpopulation.com/wow-eu-realms-population-alliance.php which I admittedly don’t trust much ordered by highest pop alliance realms is top 11.

The others already told you how the new players tag works, I’m just gonna say: it’s a damn shame they don’t want to give the new players tag to some other realm, cause if they did population would slowly start going down as players would no longer be directed there when making their first char, AND doomhammer would result as nothing less than “high”!

Exactly like quel’thalas, my realm, is currently and this is all the evidence I got from not only websites, but my who checks, they have an identical ratio of being slightly more alliance than horde and their numbers per faction are very very similar.

964

You waited 19 days to tell me this and sending me ingame mails harrasing me isnt being nice either imho leave it to the forums thanks .

Its been like that since Legion launch . I know exactly what DH is like as i play there now stop telling me what to think .

You have to be joking you really need to get off my case i have no idea how you can even say DH is a high pop realm IT IS NOT .

Doesnt work .

Most of those guilds are dead i have told you this before .

Now please stop responding to me and sending me mails and thank you again for wrecking DH and Tura chance of getting more players just because YOU want quiet realms for your BMAH and rares.
Infact i am going to place you on ignore waiting 19days to reply is clearly trolling me thank you .

I know the 2 plebs who are trying to spam and they dont get any replies . Anyway welcome to ignore and DONT mail me again .

965

They really should focus on merging low realms together everyone should have the same experience, clearly that is not the case right now and feels very much deserted.

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966

If you feel you’re being harrassed in-game … report it to Blizzard.

However, I will say, I do feel reading your responses that you’re right. Or at least, you’re sure you’re right. Therefore everyone else is wrong.

Just because you feel your realm is low pop does not make everyone else who feels THEIR realm is low pop, wrong. There are different levels of population … and different degrees of any level. But dismissing any and all stats just because you’re “right”, doesn’t make them any less valid.

I’d also like to point out that none of us have any say or influence in what Blizzard does with the realms. You could probably deduce that by the complete lack of interaction with them since they pulled the plug on connecting more realms. I very much doubt that ANYONE has wrecked your realms chances of getting connected … although if Blizzard DID take into account what we said, I’m not sure you’re “selling” your realms chances :stuck_out_tongue:

As for the links provided to you by Esploratore … the wowrealmpopulation one DOES work. Either there’s something wrong with your browser, or you just didn’t look properly. Scroll down. Your realm is (at the time of posting) number 10.

wowprogress … I’m impressed you’ve invested such a huge amount of time checking out all the guild on all those realms, to know that most are dead. Or perhaps you meant on your realm? The guilds on your realm can’t be THAT dead as there has been some pretty solid raiding going on. Perhaps you could say that they’re fairly quiet at the moment as they’re taking a break prior to Shadowlands … but the majority of raiding guilds tend to do that.

And finally … I’m also impressed that you’ve done your research and that the guys doing all the boost spamming are getting absolutely no takers. I wonder why they still do it … surely it’s not worth their while?

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967

Also the way realm population skews to the top servers, the increases are rather exponential. the difference in population between the top 10 servers is probably 10x that of the difference among the bottom 50% of severs.

Doomhammer/Turalyon by most metrics has like 1/4th the population of a high pop server like Draenor, but then compare that to like Medivh/Suramar which has less than 10% of Draenors population.

Heck you only need to go down 14ish servers from the top (EU region wide) and your already at half the population of the Draenor. That is to say alot of servers feel deserted when you compare to the handful of top servers.

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968

Well although Lightbringer/Mazrigos is fairly low down on the ranks of population, Icecrown certainly feels fairly populated when killing those rares … lag central. No idea how bad it must be on Draenor. Sometimes there are positives to being less well populated :stuck_out_tongue:

969

I mean the whole game works with shards on world servers anyway… Icecrown shards arent server specific and draenor isnt just one shard, so in reality your experience in icecrown wouldnt be any different there… were really just talking realm systems so trade chat, guilds, ah etc.

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970

This is a thing people have yet to understand.

Being on a low pop server is nothing but downsides, ever since CRZ were introduced.

Back in earlier days, there were up and downsides, such as easier rare mobs, less populated farming areas, etc.

Nowadays, you get sharded with the people from the most populated realms and compete with them for your rare mobs, herbs, ores, questmobs, etc.

So basically, you get the same shards that people on every other server get, but have 10 times the prices on the stuff in your auction house (gunshoes are currently at 1k gold a piece on my server).

Except for an empty trade chat, there’s not a single upside to playing on an empty server anymore.

971

Exactly the problem I’ve been trying to poke at Blizzard for years and years. Not that all servers must be equal populated, but this is just a joke the gap is so big between the highest vs lowest.

Blizzard keeps undoing their own good work, when connecting servers and then they have a transfer discount shortly thereafter. That only makes the problem bigger.

Blizzard should open for free-transfers from High/Full servers to Low pop. Only 1 way, but players can choose their own server instead of a designated realm.

I am still waiting for another connection to my realm. My first server died, so I moved to Shadowsong (which was very high at the time) now that’s low.

I paid for moving 9 characters. I reformed a guild, which took a lot of effort. A lot of my guildies paid to move their characters as well - and not we got a similar problem.

Atleast due to all the sharding and xrealm it’s less of an issue now. But an issue nonetheless.

It’s frustration other realms get more love than others. Especially Horde populated realms. What’s up with that???

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972

Looks like Blizzard had the same idea. I’m not sure how much difference it will make … I’ve seen a lot more people stating they’d prefer to stick with the queues for a few weeks, than use the free transfer to a lower pop realm, only to find that realm quieten right down again not long after.

We’ve had a fairly substantial uptick in activity in the guild, and new recruits … but that is solely current/previous guild members, or their friends, I don’t think I’ve noticed any transferring to our realm from a high pop realm just to avoid queues.

Things are fine now, but the question is, will they start merging realms again next year?

973

The problem is. It wasn’t a free transfer to low-pop realms. You could freely transfer from a High pop/Full realm to another High pop/Full realm. Most people went to Stormscale or Outland! Both quite high populated servers.

It’s also just been announced that Shadowlands is the fastests selling expansion, with loads of returning and new players coming into the mix. However we still see the opposite on my realm. There has never been fewer raiding guilds on my server, as there is now!.. And it was High pop in WoD, and that’s how fast it’s gone.

I spent all my saved up money as a student transferring 9 chars back in Wotlk, from a Dead server (That also used to be high) to Shadowsong, which was High at the time.

Now it’s just gone off record, because everyone flock to the largest realms, without any cap or anything on it.

Meanwhile it’s impossible to turn on Warmode, as despite I’m on a low-pop realm, it’s sharded together with Draenor Horde. one of the largest servers… So any benefit to be a small server, go completely out the window.

Bring back all the merges that were promised in September. It was terminated way too soon. Blizzard has done it sucessfully in the past, they should do it again, and group up all the low-pop servers. Even if it just sneaks into Medium I’m absolutely fine…

Just don’t keep the servers in the current state as they are now.

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