At this point it would be sick if every RP realm was just merged into one - maybe even under a different / fresh name and for people not interested in RP to be offered free transfers to similar OOC realms if they want them
I feel like if all the RP on this game was concentrated in one place (per region / language, I guess?) then the GMs etc would be able to give a way more robust response to stuff like Goldshire / OOC griefing / event distruption etc (which Iâm sure are problems every RP realm shares at least to an extent)
Brilliant!
From an RP realm perspective, I think thereâd be a lot of interest in the idea of the RP realms either becoming all connected, or a set of 2 large ones (AD versus The Behemoth).
However, a big issue that the now-quiet RP realms have is how it can feel the actual population of RPers is shrinking all the time, and certain realms have gained a bit of a name for themselves as being an example of an RP realm that was not supported when it was needed.
Itâs a big ask, but itâd be a really cool gesture to the RP community if in preparation for the merging of their realms, there is an opening of free transfers FROM those RP realms to better suited Normal realms as well, for those not interested in RP but unwilling (fairly) to pay to transfer to where theyâd be better suited and involved.
I started off on a PvP realm and there were definitely rivalries between the guilds on the two factions. All that is long gone now. Itâs a struggle to run into people from your own guild, let alone realm.
Absolutely in love with this idea. RP spaces deserve some spring cleaning and OOCers stranded on our realms deserve a chance to move to realms that are far better suited to fit their needs. Bonus points if the transfer notification includes clearly stated benefits of a potential move, such as openly mentioning a far larger recruitment pool, more raid-friendly AH, etc etc.
Hell, I wish such transfers were opened on AD as well, not just the merged realms. We could all use a little less OOC in our lives, eh.
@Deathmaster: Would you care to elaborate as I am only aware of one specific connection being a major headache? It was sufficiently bad back then that some major offenders were banned due to various major breaches of (forum) rules.
@Trelw For example the Stormreaver realm was/is filled to the brim with Finnish players. While it might not fair to state they canât speak English, they do refuse to. As such trade chat has become unreadable with ugly words containing 5 consecutive Ă€âs and everything written in English is usually followed by something containing vittu perkele. Needless to say, everyone hated it.
Our community took a blow when this happened and I donât think it will survive another when some realm with predominantly⊠letâs say Dutch players start littering trade with a language only few can read.
As not every language can have itâs own dedicated realm, some realms have become the unofficial âenter country hereâ-realm. No one wants to be put into one of those. Truly no one.
@Deathmaster: That would indeed be a misstatement as basically all younger generations of Finns are more or less tri-lingual by the age of 16 (any two of the following three: Finnish, Swedish or Lappish and at least one foreign language, often, but not always English). While I was nowhere near super fluent, I spoke four languages by age 16⊠and that was 30 years ago. However, WoW at least used to be extremely popular among the very young here and excessive use of expletives would suggest that the problem lies more in the extremely young age, where actual lack of skill still plays a large role. One can not really expect a 8-12 year olds to use multiple languages well, when even the own native language is still lacking.
From what I have experienced, the Dutch were probably a bad example pick as well as almost every Dutch player I have encountered has been able to express him-/herself in fluent English. However, I do understand your underlaying sentiment. On public channels, it would be best that a language understood by the majority (on English support realms English) would be prevalent. When that does not happen, it is frustrating and/or feels like spam.
Generally speaking, the âfixâ is a situation, where no smaller language gains an actual majority and this requires large enough factions. âFinnreaverâ, âSwescaleâ and a few other realms are challenging, but most are far too big to get connected.
Since I am working on my own âshadow outline for connectionsâ, I am going to ask you a more specific question and would appreciate any input you might have. Do you know any âLowâ or very low activity âMediumâ classified realms / connected realms that would be non-English majorities?
Mmm, is there no other mount collector that is seeing the negative side of a further round of connections?
I mean, I am in a good position, as in a connection currently wouldnât hinder me cause I have all sort of stuff like soundless, arachnoid, rustfeather, time-lost, aeonaxx, vale rares, uldum rares, kodo, fabius and you get the drill, but for a collector lacking any or for anyone come shadowlands, will hardcore farmers be happy to be forced into camping stuff A LOT more than we did so far, cause we will have a smaller amount of realms and thereby a smaller amount of the same rare in a given time?
Example Iâve been finding 4-5 soundless in 1h of checking overnight thanks to my many realms, with connections this is gonna get worse.
Furthermore, if one still needs some mounts from BMAH? Example galleon, sha, nalak, rukhmar, oondasta, tiger, raptor, plagued proto are a lot more efficient from BMAH or only possible from there, so if you have a lot of chars with gold on many reams you have a lot more chances, and connecting realms will limit these chances too.
@Esploratore: Additional connections will not alter CRZ in any significant manner, so anything that has to be farmed âoutsideâ remains as is unless the actual player count starts climbing heavily as a result of the connections.
As for the BMAH⊠their number will fall a bit⊠but outside the probably relatively few people who have used real money to transfer large amounts of gold to tiny realms that will not have a major impact either.
In other words, some people probably did think about this, but for most this will not change anything in terms of mount availability.
What you mean about crz is that letâs make an example: during my soundless farming emerald dream was definitely together with darkspear, so they were crz, while they werenât connected (yet at least), do you mean that the crz will always overrule connected realms, as in that if realm A and B get connected their crz will include A, B, C, thereby making the connection irrelevant for farming purposes?
As Iâm at it a 2nd question: have you considered Iâm talking about current expansion content as well, where crz might (or might not) be different compared to old expansions areas?
@Esploratore: Basically, CRZ system will create a required number of shards of specific location regardless of origin of characters in them. So, if there are only, say 13 people in a specific location, it is extremely likely they will all be in single shard, even if they do not come from the same realm or connected realms as long as they are English support realms with one exception. Certain people regularly see people from Italian realms in their shards⊠As far as I know, German, French and Spanish are invite only. The only other major point is that RP realms do not mix with normal ones without party invitations.
The only difference is that new locations are more likely to have multiple shards, but this is not related to connections, either. Just the total number of people, hence my note of âunless the actual player count starts climbing heavilyâ.
So, in short, unless old shards become much busier, you are not likely to notice any changes in old or new outdoor content in terms of number of shards. Regarding the BMAHs⊠are any of your purchase alts on RP realms or have you spent money to relocate alts to âLowâ population realms? If not, you will most likely not see much impact here either.
Thanks for the detailed answer, I know a lot about crz because Iâve dealt with it ever since it was implemented, trying to make chars on various realm zones to get more kills per hour of a certain rare, but didnât know all this stuff about how sharding works.
As for BMAH, I have chars on 75 different realms, many of them are obviously low pop and some are RP as well, I didnât spend money to relocate them, I just have 1-2 mil each on many many realms and then the few exceptions with more.
Iâm not completely clear here for BMAH: letâs say doomhammer gets connected with bronze dragonflight, 2 realms I have reasonable amounts on, wonât the competition be more fierce for hot items given the higher amount of people?
It will be. BMAH is the only clear downside for servermerges. Thereâll be less items throughout all the servers and theyâll be less spread out.
But I feel like this is a pretty obvious case of âthe upsides outweigh the downsides by a lotâ. The genuine hot items usually go for goldcap regardless of server anyway. And 9/10 of the other items go for an amount not worth mentioning.
Yes! That would be great! If we saw a notif, or a blue post, or something else that encouraged the use of the transfers where appropriate, it would show the Devs are still in support of maintaining our RP communities and helping them keep their intended tone and function.
@Esploratore: Doomhammer / Turalyon and Bronze Dragonflight / Nordrassil are both already connected pairs. Yes, the competition would go up some⊠but that particular pairing would not be massively populated even in a 4-way connection. Depending on how exactly Blizzard does things, the total number of English non-RP BMAHs might lower by as little as six⊠It is not a big change, if it ends up that limited. It actually should be bigger⊠Also, depending on the locations of your alts and their cash supplies, you might very well end up with more money in certain locations as well after the connections are done.
EDIT: Silly typoâŠ
EDIT 2: Actually, if they do things in a very specific manner, it might only be three, though that would be really cheap trick and not really fill the player desires or their promises.
However, WoW at least used to be extremely popular among the very young here and excessive use of expletives would suggest that the problem lies more in the extremely young age, where actual lack of skill still plays a large role. One can not really expect a 8-12 year olds to use multiple languages well, when even the own native language is still lacking.