please tell me you’re nerfing sp dmg and self heals before release?
here’s a video of a ret vs sp duel in SL made by Savix
skip to 4:29
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It’s called a beta for a reason.
Still, judging from what SPs are now it’s an improvement.
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Of course they are, it shouldn’t have to be asked.
They just reworked the class, give them a break.
Next Expansion where Spriest is gonna be turbobroken pog?
After two expansions of horrible game play we deserve to be broken for a little while 
Seriously though, I’m super excited for these changes, they look like a good improvement. It might make me main a shadow priest again 
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If this goes live not gonna buy this expansion. There will be so many sp priests running eveywhere
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WHO?
Jokes aside…
Has SP ever actually been op for any long period of time? I know they’ve sporadically been strong duelists (as in people who /duel)
but overpowered? God comp was a thing, I’m aware, but outside of an arena composition, they’ve never managed to stay overpowered for too long as far as I’m aware. This won’t be the case for SL’s launch either.
I don’t play sp but I’m kind of okay with them being abit op for a little while. They have been so bad for all of BFA, in mythic+ and pvp. Granted some people if they’re very skilled in sp in pvp make it viable but most don’t. I feel let sp have a chance to shine.
Turbobroken in raids for last 3 years xd?
I’m talking about PvP.
Ok but I’m not?
Ok. What’s your point?
Are you for real? Aside 8.3, shadowpriest was a pretty solid position both legion and bfa.
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I didn’t say they had bad numbers, I said their gameplay was horrible. Still is horrible. It doesn’t matter what numbers it does, Blizzard has ruined Shadow Priest for two expansions. I’m very happy with the changes we are getting now, I don’t need it to be OP. I never needed it to be OP before Legion to enjoy it.
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Coincidentally levelling my first SPriest right now, so am glad to see some improvements are being made. Obviously I’m still getting the hang of the class / spec (never played caster before) but so far SPriest isn’t anywhere near Ret in 1v1 PvP.
imagine Crying for nerfs before tuning phase.
ofcourse their gonna be nerfed.
Last time we were turbopog in a enviroment… we paid for it over 3 years 
spriest dps is still fine in 8.3 lol… logs have good Spriests still doing pretty damn well.
the problem occurs at the fact they’re mechanics are so damn inflexible that if they dont fit specific fights they simply cannot work around them.
also ontop of this… The between being BiS each Patch… Spriest is horrific… they lean so far on the borrowed power systems… Once they have the gear yeah they work amazingly… but that doesnt change how broken And horrific the gameplay is getting there.
really hope it isnt OP… it never bolds well when Some classes turn OP XD, blizzard Nerf hammers are OTT at times and i wouldnt wanna see Spriest outright suck after a major Nerf a few weeks after launch haha
Changes look rly good from a Gameplay aspect tho 
Wouldnt really agree here 
Fire mage has been stronger then Shadow Priest for a while… and Im pretty certain they werent “Overpowered” in Nighthold, Argus or Uldir… wasnt active during ToS or BoD so unsure where they were in those times.
So to say they’ve been Brokenly Strong for 3 years Straight i wouldnt agree with.
As far as i know, the only 2 raids Shadow priest was considered broken for were The Emerald Nightmare and Eternal Palace. both of these tiers followed with strong Nerfs to Shadow Priest.
not saying the class has performed badly in every other raid… simply there has defintly been stronger choices then Shadow Priest.
Pff, that’s nothing compared to the state of Discipline in the BFA beta.
I just hope they don’t go overboard with the nerfbat once they begin tuning in the weeks leading up to release.
I’d put money on em defintly overnerfing.
but hey gameplay comes first and i doubt it’ll be that bad Realistically
I dont play spriest, i only said that cos after 8.3 launched, shortly after each day, there was a forum post about “why spirest sucks”.
Spriest does suck… but not for the reasons u think.
borrowed power and Shadow Design simply Creates major problems. they cant Be too good at core because they scale too well… this means everytime the next tier comes out Shadow priests hit the floor in terms of DPS until they reach back up.
its likely thje reason its being Shouted at more atm was to scream at blizzard to not leave the class on VF for another expansioon
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