New to PVP. Way to first Arena win

Hi Guys,

My and my girl are 100% new to wow PVP and are in need of some startup advice. We aim to get good at PVP but our journey begins at us being complete noobs.

  1. Do you guys have some tips, things you wish you did when you first started to do arena?
  2. Are there any classes that are “beginner friendly” in Arena? I really dont want to chose based on whats OP and not, but i do want to test out several classes before i make up my mind as what to main.
  3. Are there any musthave addons that we should get a hold of?
  4. Should we record our fights and go over them afterwards, to learn from our mistakes?
  5. We have a few “combos” of chars we lvl together and do arena on:
  • (sub)Rogue and (affliction)Warlock
  • Mage and Warrior
  • (balance)Druid and (Marksmanship) Hunter

I love the pve playstyle of Balance druid but i deal VERY little damage at lvl 35. Are any of the combinations named above better than others, for arena?

  1. We “panic” quite a lot and end up smashing buttons, there is so much happening on the screen - the plan is to continue to learn our classes and some good combos / rotations.

  2. Are “twinks” still a thing in wow / arena? Im asking because some of the teams crush us in SECONDS.

  3. How is the MMR in Arena? We are honor lvl 1 and get matched up against players lvl 240 +. Is there maybe no MMR at all and its all random?

  4. Could you recommend a youtube channel / site dedicated to PVP content - especially beginner guides?

Thanks in advance!

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Ideally you should play healer/dps as it makes it easier.

General good addons to use:

  • bigdebuffs
  • sarena / gladius / gladiusex (one of those - shows enemy DRs and things, gex shows CDs)
  • omnibar - shows when spells have been used
  • arenateamtracker - shows CDs of party members
  • Diminish - shows DRs for party
  • Details - shows damage done/healing/buffs etc - good for analysing what yours and the opponents main sources of damage/healing are to know what to look out for.

MMR is not based on ilvl no. Generally you want at least 100ilvl (which most would consider low).
Twinks are only a thing at low levels. You will die in seconds if you don’t know what to do, especially without a healer.

You should choose whichever classes you’re comfortable playing, because having to think about what cooldowns you have or what keybinds you have, makes playing arena significantly harder. There’s so much to track already that its just one thing you don’t want to think about.

Oh and try to have fun, and not care too much if you get one shot.

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To be honest mate. The main problem of the arena is that you won’t get information on how to play it in game. There are plenty of small things you will need to change to play arena.

Starting with changing binds to walk with Strafe and don’t turn with keyboard which is default and many PvE players do. Learn to play on zoomed out camera. Using proper focus macros because @arena123 is to early yet.

Downloading proper addons as most of the improtant information like DRs, interrupts are not shown with Blizzard UI and they need addons.

To begin with I can give you few videos.

Watch all episodes of Cdews and Cdon’ts. It will give you some insight.

I also recommend this video

However I don’t like his UI it has too many things so choose what you like.

And one most crucial thing you will never learn in WoW:

I’m talking about last part from here. Custom lag tolerance.

As comp I advise you to play DPS + Healer. If your girlfriend is new to the game. I’ll advise you to make healer and heal her. Playing healer is way more stressful so she may get turned off from arenas easily. I’d play something like Arms Warrior or Unh DK + R Shaman. It’s simple to play because it doesn’t require any long CC chains and setups while Warrior or DK just trains one target and Shaman heals with easily assisting in damage and utility. Don’t go for 2x DPS as this is the hardest way of playing arena and requires a lot of skill to be successful in. Unless you want to lose a lot at the begining. Why Shaman? As it’s not really that difficult as healer and it’s very strong right now. Definetely easier than R Druid and D Priest and way stronger than H Pala and Monk at the moment.

This video can give you some other ideas.

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Hello Saltymarius!
You have alot of good questions and instead of writting a giant wall of text i will
name a few sites/channels where you and your gf can find alot of answers :slight_smile:

There are alot of high rated and/or experienced players who do share their knowledge with other people.

For example someone like Stoopzz on youtube:
Stoopzz_TV

If you want to find some statistics and gear-recomendations:
TheLootDistrict

For class-guides from some of the highest players of the world:
Skillcapped WoW Guides (youtube)

If you want an easy way 2 download and keep your addons in check you can download the Twitch App und fuse your wow-account with it.

Keep in mind that the game is “balanced” for the endgame and numbers from an unfinished char dont mean anything because of the scaling.

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honor level has nothing to do with that. At lvl 35 there is no MMR you are only quen skirmish anyway. Level up to 50 or 60(when SL drops) .
I recommend one of you playing healer or you will have a hard time.

First you need to dump your girlfriend… Women are not good in Arena. They dont have balls for it.

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Are you serious? I swear some best healers i have seen were girls.

You are playing with bad and slow people in that case. Sorry but women dont have taste for blood in them. Not in this game. Not in real life either. Its all about blood. Blood.

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I find I have no choice but to congratulate you on posting excellent bait.

Because I legit think you might seriously be this cringy.

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Im a violent man. And Im proud of that. I express my life through hate and violence. With words and actions. If you find this cringy that really is amusing to me. Maybe I should thank you. You city people live in a bubble. And it will pop sooner or later. As history has shown us thousands of times before.

i’ll try to answer to all points (not all in order sorry)

it may be a bit chaotic but if you are in the process of leveling i think playing as many skirmishes as you can is very good practice, of course the game is not balanced at all at lower levels so absurd things will happen but you can focus on learning the fundamentals of positioning, placing cc on off target and making a go on the kill target, kiting and line of sight.
twinks are a thing, but most of the time you get crushed in low level skirmish because of the (lack of) balance at these levels to the point where some specs shine at low lvl arena and there is not much you can do other than immediately dying. besides, don’t take it too seriously as in trying to figure out meta, tactics etc in low level skirmishes because it may be irrelevant anyway at max lvl (for instance in lower levels you often have to overlap defensives or press every single button in the game to not die to the air in a go whereas in the real game you can be fine with just one), which is why i think it’s good to focus on core mechanics such as positioning, landing CCs, kiting and generally getting to know your class well
also remember that skirmishes will always be double dps vs double dps in 2vs2 which is not accurate with the ranked ladder (most common comps are heal+dps), as healers are placed in 3vs3 skirmishes by default

for composition, if you plan to play 2vs2 especially i think heal+damage is better to learn because most double damage dealer compositions are very hard to play and unforgiving, so it’s better to play it if you already have a good knowledge of the game in arena already. if both of you want to play dps, you can look for a healer and play 3vs3. about classes to pick, i’d look for 2 strong classes that go well together (see tierlists in youtube channels such as skill capped)

for addons, here is a small list of addons that are very frequently used:

  • sArena,Gladius or GladiusEx (Arena Frames)
  • Omnibar (enemy cooldown tracker)
  • Omnicd or ArenaTeamTracker (party cooldown tracker)
  • Diminish (general diminishing return tracker, i like to use it to track DRs of party member and self)
  • BigDebuffs which highlights important auras such as buffs, debuffs on unit frames by changing their portrait icon to the icon of the debuff, and if you use a fancy nameplate addon, in many cases it can also append the icon to the nameplate which is nice too.

there are many more you can use but these are the ones i need the most.
two more addons that i find very important are

  • Details (advanced combat log analysis to understand everything that happened in one arena match)
  • REFlex which tracks your progress on the arena, will record match reports of every arena match you play indicating things such as team compositions, win/loss, MMR, player names and so you can see what comps you struggle most with and other things like that.

If it helps, there is also GladiatorlosSA2 which gives you sound alerts when opponents use important spells, cooldowns, abilities.

Not arena related, but if you plan to play rated battlegrounds, BattlegroundEnemies is basically a “sArena” for battlegrounds, which is great!

recording every single game and reviewing them is very good, you can delete those later on, or you can use a streaming site like youtube and stream as unlisted or private, so it will be saved there and you don’t have to worry about disk space,and you can share it with anyone for review very quickly.

for youtube, many great ones were mentioned in the thread already such as Cdew’s videos and SkillCapped. i think Xaryu’s channel is great because he makes a lot of videos explaining in depth some matchups, even though it’s from a mage perspective (and often as double dps in 2vs2, but sometimes 3vs3 too) you will still learn a ton from it.
i also learned a LOT from Shadenox’s videos, which are great resources for rogue players, so i recommend it 100%. just type Shadenox wow in youtube search.

i don’t know if there is an MMR in skirmishes, some old posts i have seen from warlords era were some experiments where people said there actually was MMR in skirmishes, but by my experience in skirms you will meet all sorts of players…

and lastly for your first point, i wish i had started learning the abilities of all classes in detail straight away and started using arena123 keybinds for important spells straight away too, and focus123/target123 keybinds too. also learning the importance of setup for setup comps (especially being very cautious with DRs when trying to do a go), and basically putting an emphasis on learning how wow arena matches are heavily centered around trading of cooldowns (like Overwatch if you play it, you mitigate opponent team’s goes/ultimates with well chosen ultimates of your own, and try to never overlap defensives or overlap offensives when it is not necessary else you will lose the cooldowns race) so it is very important to learn what are each cooldowns of each class (offensives and defensives) so you can recognize when they are used, their effect, and how to mitigate each of them efficiently.

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Literally a farmer, dude.

Incorrect. I used to live in cities. I left because of the realization that you are just fuel for the Fel.

I was refering to myself.

You should stay where you are. Cities are waste of human spirit. We belong in nature.

Do not pick mage if you are new to arena. You need be very good on mage to win over bad players, and know every little detail like DR tracker, 15 focus macros etc while other melee classes like DK,warrior do nothing just their PVE rotation and can win games

yea absolutely.
I guess I must be an incredible skilled mage that I feel I have more impact on a ilvl 70 mage that I never ever played vs my ilvl 130 shaman

just bind 3 keys as mage.
Sheep everybody in sight
spam frost bolt for icicles
spam ice lance for maximum faceroll while pressing spacebar as hard and often as you can when you get some procs. Hell even do it if you don’t get procs to be more l33t of course.

on a serious note:
Especially frost mage these days is not rocket science anymore and they are not as squishy as they used to be. Shimmer makes positioning and ccing also noob friendly.
So nothing wrong with going mage as a first char

Cant recommend this guy enough

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=nnBmJ0a-rMg

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