New WoW Raids and Dungeons Are So Lame Now

Honestly, what happened to the raids and dungeons in WoW? It’s like the devs ran out of ideas and just threw some random stuff together.

Timewalking shows us how good it used to be - Black Temple is an amazing raid compared to newest raids from DF and now TWW. Shadowlands still had a soul and creativity both in dungeon design and raids.

Now it’s like they just copypaste the same boring mechanics and call it a day. It’s frustrating because with all this time, things should be getting better, not worse. Yet, everyone seems happy with the mediocrity.

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There has been 20 years and 100s of raids, they can’t keep making new ideas after such a long time. There’s only so many ways to kill a boss.

To be honest a theme in most games across the industry, is that harder bosses later in the game rely on the tactics you learned in the earlier parts of the game, why should wow be different?

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Well, this is your opinion and you’re entitled to it.

Also, can you quickly go ahead and post on your main character? I just want to check something :wink:

Mechanics from all dungones/raids are always used in other encounters, this is normal. They sometimes build upon those mechanics to create something new.

Each dungeon & raid in the whole game throughout its 20-year history has had some great and some terrible boss encounters.

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Bt was nice thematicaly .

But that was it there wasnt any cool mechanics or something u will remeber years later, its was just go there and kill it has had some of the more iconic loots, thats why u remember it as so good.

Im not much of a raider myself, but damn raids are nice , so many unique mechanics ( yea i hate them all) across the board.

Just look at what we have now, first 3-4hc bosses had more mechanics than whole BT .

Kinda interested to hear your subjective opinion what made bt so good, apart from nostalgia

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What a person posts on has no bearing they can have a view if the wish they paye the same sub as you.

I do however disagree with the OP i think TWW raid and dungeons so far have been fun apart from Dawn.

They pay their sub, sure. Have they experienced every single raid & dungeon as they were intended on the release of that expansion, before any adjustment or the character becoming stronger due to outleveling said raid or dungeon?

This is something that people normally want to know before they listen to someone :wink:

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It isn’t really worth raiding anymore.

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I found the raid really cool for once, the Palace is miles ahead of all DF bosses save for Sennarth and Diurna.

But it’s true that gameplay-wise, Blizzard is not even trying very hard. I wish we could get a vehicle boss just like the Flame Leviathan in Ulduar.

Aesthetically, thematically, Black Temple was one of the best raids they have designed. But in terms of mechanics, Black Temple was simple and janky with masses of trash. The Silken Court in the new spider raid is pretty good and I think as a whole the raid is decent.

I very much doubt this raid goes down as an all time great, that much seems clear, but the world first race could yet be interesting (As Amirdrassil was, though I thought that raid was meh otherwise). When it comes to raid designs, sometimes they are hit, sometimes they are miss, sometimes they are luke warm, that has always been true.

The most loathed content behind EYE lol…

I don’t love the new stuff but I’ll take it over 45 stuns per minute, fears all over the place, a boss that just says you’ll die in a minute regardless of what you do. Illidan was really cool but there’s a reason why he’s considered so cool and not Gorefiend or something.

If there was no creativity then why all of a sudden can we mount in combat and avoid mechanics in the air, while managing a timer we can extend by flying well or even being able to shoot while flying using flight abilities? Are we playing the same game?

You can’t talk to people without their raid history or IO? I also don’t see anything special from your account if you ask me. You also have really weird “About”… maybe time to post from your alt

I do not talk about mechanics, but themes, visuals, etc. Most of the new dungeons are really bad too, worse than any in DF/SL and even BoA

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naah black temple is a alright raid would not call it amazing at all

I don’t know but queen ansurek mechanically is much more fun to play
then for example fyrakk or sarkareth.
I like how smooth and straight forward the boss is on normal and even on HC
it’s very clean…
I enjoy raiding right now more then i enjoy mplus and i’m a big mplus enjoyer since legion :smiley:

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I would not either, but even that raid mogs all DF raids and now, TWW raid

Maybe it has to do with new awful dungeons? I did write about dungeons as well

I agree new dungeons are not really great at all but raid is really good

They are indeed boring and without imagination :smiley:

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Awwwww is that because you’re a Kazzak player pout face
(btw I can write whatever I want in my about info on my IO profile :wink: )

New dungeons, quick & easy, nothing else to be said.

I prefer the classic original dungeons! Length, depth, width uwu!

Raids, always different in their own aspect and all enjoyable.

Stop making excuse for the bad. Why the game is not F2P if they cannot make new ideas?

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The moment the game goes F2P is the moment a lot of people leave and a ALOT of bots arrive, which will outnumber the players 10 to 1!