Next expansion, rework the PVP honor system

TLDR Your honor system is unrewarding, eternally grindy, mathmatically incorrect, boring, tedious, insanely inflated and it blows. Makes me not care at all.

Hi. So. I hate the BFA honor system with a passion.

Its the worst system I’ve ever seen and I’ve played since 2005. Why? Because it feels absolutely useless, half-baked and unrewarding to boot.

In Legion I got gold, marks of honor, etc per level. And per Prestige level I got flags, mounts, cosmetics etc before you began giving up, Blizz.

I was grinding everyday from 1-25 because I liked the cool icons and the flags. I felt like it was surmountable, to push from 1000 honor to 1500 honor per level till I reached 50. Then I got 1 prestige out of 25.

Not inflated numbers at all. Everything was surmountable. I felt like I could progress legit in 1 day by reaching 1-2 prestige if I really really went hardcore.

But in BFA’s system I’m grinding 8800 honor and get 1 level out of what? 1000? and I get no rewards at all for this minus some reward after 100 + levels.
IT is abysmally bad. It is disgustingly awful.

And worst part about this is 2 things.
Nr 1: Ion said he didn’t want the PVP system to feel insane for new players to grind through. Well mission failed. You accomplished EXACTLY what you didn’t want to do.

Nr 2: The numbers are insanely inflated. 8800 honor per lvl, getting zero reward and on top of that it feels far slower and harder to progress this way.
It may not be on paper or mathmatically, but based on my playing throughout BFA, I’ve hated it. Its so bad that I dont even watch my honor anymore. I dont keep track of it.

I kept track of it EVERY SECOND of Legion because i felt like I was moving somewhere. Towards something. I pushed from prestige 1-25 in about than 6 months after returning late Legion. Yet playing BFA for a year soon I’ve only gotten 1 prestige lvl although I PVP regularly and win.

Your system… is atrocious. Grindy on steroids. Its unrewarding, its slow, its ugly and I hate it to boot. It makes me not want to care.

last note I’ve mentioned before. How your math is wrong. When BFA prepatch hit you changed the honor system. I lost my prestige ranks, I got rolled back, and about 3-4 of my upcoming rewards in BFA’s prestige system are mounts and titles that I ALREADY HAVE.

Nobody talked about this on release. I could not find threads, you devs ignored it. And you continue to ignore it.

Your math if wrong. Your system is bad. You’ve rolled back months of work and replaced a functional, surmountable, fun honor system with an endless, slow, awful unrewarding grind.

And I can’t actually understand how anyone on your team could actually look at this and think " yeah. That’ll work"

But I’m willing to let bygones be bygones… if you just KILL… this F’ing system come next expansion. And go back to Legion’s design because it was GOOD. Not inflated, constantly rewarding and I could look at it and think. yeah, I’ll be able to do this in a few months depending on how late I start.

Please fix your system. I can’t imagine anyone actually liking it because its so poorly designed that most people wont even notice its there. Because why would they? When everything that notified you that it existed has pretty much been removed or nerfed into the ground.

And just in case you continue to think that your math is right? If that is the case… .then explain how I went from prestige 25 to 17-18 and all rewards up from 17-18 to 25 I have YET to unlock in BFA by grinding over 150 honor levels.

Your math… is correct because you changed the original structure of the equation which everyone has used to make their geometry assignment. And now that our figures are wrong, you keep claiming the formula is correct but only because you changed the core and utterly ignore the fact that you rolled us back.

It still p#sses me off that nobody addressed this and still wont address it after so long. I even had a gamemaster tell me it was screwed up but there was nothing he could do and told me to tweet the devs.

This expansion is such a colossal mess.
Edit: And if that example dont make any sense. I dont care! Im a warrior. Im mad! Lol.

But simply put. I was prestige 25-50. When BFA hit i should’ve been lvl 350 or something. Instead I was barely half that. Because they changed the math of how the system works. But disregarded that we had to re-grind rewards. Sure we didn’t lose our rewards but WHO cares about that when they make us regrind them anyway

= Total…mess.

Please get rid of this system come next expansion. I’ve never not wanted to play a system more than this.

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we still have honor?
doesn’t even notice it still exists lolz

I want gear for honor back, thanks

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This grind is not for everyone but will feel good when u get that lvl 500 mount, so if u can’t handle the grind don’t do it.

Not much to feel good about, its just a reskin of the 7 others we get on the way.

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Mate you said good things, make a copy to devs to know how bad honor system is and that need this improvements.

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The thing is, it’s not a reskin.

I just genuinely hope they actually are aware.
When BFA hit and I saw this I freaked but nobody talked about it and the GM’s could do nothing to help even as I stated " Yo. My man. You are telling me I’m not rolled back, yet you want me to regrind like 5 rewards from prestige levels. How does that make sense?"

GM was like:" yeah you’re right. Its really bad. But i can’t do anything."

To imagine that this systems is maintained next xpac and the levels will increase to like 1500 or god knows many how… is just fullblown insane to even consider. As my examples put. I could grind legion prestige 1-25 in about 3-4 months if I absolutely went crazy. If I took it slower I’d be able to do around 1 prestige every week + -. And thats solid progress. 25 levels max. Or 30 levels.

To think that the devs thought 25-30 levels were insurmountable feeling and one thousand levels + didn’t… shocks as me much as it did when I first heard it.

lets hope for the best. Because if they keep giving us cool toy flags put put it at like honor lvl 1500 I dont know what I’ll do. Because where as some would argue" YOu’ll play anyway and deal with it" thats the thing… you cannot rush this at all. You cannot actively rush-grind this system as we did in Legion.

Its just so long. So eternally slow… and God. Ion… if you’re ever reading this. Please freaking revert to Legion. People didn’t complain about the grind. We complained about the crap rewards.

Edit:

Dude. I grinded Tusks of Mannoroth. My issue isn’t a grind in an MMO.
My issue is a seriously badly designed grind that has lost all forms of rewarding structure.
And btw. I couldn’t give a remote damn about some mount.
Im trying to have fun with a system of progression that has been destroyed because Ion doesn’t know what he’s doing.

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