ngl, blizzard is the only company that can “rework” a class because it was bad, and make it even worse, great job, never stop to amaze. yes, im talking about resto druid…
So is it broken now or useless? I haven’t really bothered with anything yet.
The only decent rework was bringing in those 3 treant charges,and it only worked because we had 2 seasons of the same Tier set Bonus enhancing that. It was decent for shuffle and 2s/3s but in Bgs you could already tell how far behind and useless that class is. Was very foretelling for Tww.
Just reroll Boomi till they fix it.
agreed bro, idk what this rework is suppose to do tbh
Tested it in Ebg unfortunally i cant dodge the premade vs ally bot cringe rn but yeah first thing i noticed, apart from the obvious stuff of replacing your major 30 second with a smaller one, roots and wrath is still instant your healing buttons are not no instant regrowth no enhanced rejuvs wild growth.
That Massbloom has way too much cd if you compare it to the duration of that inca,press it early and you can have it 2 times wow amazing.
You move like a snail and will be almost stoic if theres traps etc.
I got kicked on my tranq as well getting this as a last resort cd out of your system will take forever.
My first Symbiotic Relationship faded in the starting area, my second one disappeared when the tank died. So in bgs and blitz you will need to recast it… Lycaras medition buff proccs never.
Reforestation,the 4 mend=inca procc talent,seems to also bug quite a lot with that talent at least. Gonna test it later when real ppl are in the queue again but so far… no thx.
Give tranq bubble and 3 stacks bloom back
Edit says it could have legit replaced tranq instead of inca and might have actually been a better option apart from the casttime.
1.5cast time to shapeshift into new tree form cannot replace tranq bubble
Removing tranq bubble is big nerf there… Because there is alot of situation when tranq is only answer, no matter if you are fully hoted and mitigated.
When you take Ancient of Lore PVP talent, reforestation procs after 8th cast…
Idk, maybe i’m missing something but i see no value in it,real inca > fake inca so far. Which means well with bubble and 3 stacks bloom missing u can just use mobility/utility pvp-talents no one plays since shadowlands. Those deeproots will come in handy.
Lets see it from the positive side, we just have to wait for the Awcs for changes to happen
Ppl were saying rdruid would become new s+ tier and the like but I kinda doubt it and I guess so do others aswell who know anything of the healers or have played one.
I did see that only way rdruid would be on par with mw or hpala or disc would be if they overtuned its heals but then it also would just be boring healing bot that dont have to use brain for nothing when atleast the other classes have to think about when they use their cooldowns which druid has none to give. So to state the obvious I guess could say that rdruid lacks cooldowns, its either overtuned healing power with boring gameplay or rework to have some meaningful cds to give and make plays with.
I can make plays in 2s with rdruid cc and playing with sv but those times are long gone when nobody even plays arena anymore, the game needs to be seen in bigger picture for all healers to be viable in blitz and shuffle and the like and I dont know if blizzard cares or understands this, they seem to be content there is just one healer, mw that carrys all rbg and blitz for example.
Which I think is garbage designing to have one spec like mw that has such advantages on their design compared to rest and this is not new issue either, its been issue for years now. At this point I think they just dont care or unable to fix anything, they cant even make shuffles desirable for healers even after 3 years of healers complaining about it and playerbase obviously quitting healing it and still nothing done about it.
S-tier not, but the one thing i did noticed throughout the last xx Seasons was when everyone is green-geared it can keep up+ feels fine and falls behind in steps with the more gear automatically gets obtained,as if you dont scale as good as dps players / other healers with gear, 2set 4 set etc.
Like it stood out to me very clearly again and again. now put that on top of the metaslaving and you will always fall behind with the way that class is designed.
In bgs it was always very obvious, 2s is doable as druid no matter how bad things are, i guess 3s its up to the comb you play and shuffle idk u tell me,the current cutoff was mostly a give away if you need to even try or not.
Can only say from dh x rdruid perspective,we play that bracket together for duelist and don’t botherfor more. The one thing we noticed was how shuffle has emptied not just 3s but 2s as well.
Every Season started the same,we go in have 2.1 mmr play against Hunter x druid hunter x pri rogue x pri and the occasional warry x sham/mw,you sweat and tryhard against people who nolife that bracket for your 1.6 token till you tilt and retry some time later for the next rewards.
We always played against the same people as if you play the same season again. Like that movie where that dude is living the same day everyday like a loop.
It shows the decline in pvp interest. Which you can blame on neglect. and probably only listening to the top 1 % and the bottom. Erase the middle field slowly but steady and you will have rbg death in every bracket.
After bringing in that Battlemender Achievement > 50 wins on 1.8 for a seasonal title,they brought in last season another acm for 100 wins which gave u a Flagtoy.
I’m almost certain it boosted their Healer Participation quite a bit from those who are still addicted to this Collection-Fomo-farm-simulator.
Yeah those are not the changes atleast I care about, I wont heal shuffle as long as as the systems design rewards dps more rating than healers. There is other modes and ways to gain ranks than healing shuffles, I would just play dps in any number of modes currently and never touch shuffle as healer not till they do something about it that there would be reason to heal it.
That battlemender and toy is an insult when there is retribution or fury or any number of months finest as dps that just waltzes through shuffles design when not single healer will ever be able to do the same for their ratings. Simply put if the rating gains are not equal for dps and healers there will not be reason for me to heal the mode, I am goal oriented player and I see healing shuffles as inferior on comparison to healing something else or just playing strong dps. More healers should just stop healing shuffles and we would have more dps complain about the que times and blizz might do something eventually.
Im not a main healer or main anything tbh. I minmax whats most efficient just like anybody else in unbalanced game like this. Only reason I began healing in shadowlands was when the lfg were 100:1 dps to heals ratio so I adapted to what is most efficient to get to play and progress in the game. Currently shuffle is the worst to progress as healer just like rdruid is worst in bgb to make progress, so I think its simply wise not to when the game is so badly balanced that you wont be able to enjoy playing something bad.

More healers should just stop healing shuffles and we would have more dps complain about the que times and blizz might do something eventually.
I do like your way of thinking unfortunately that can be countered easy without doing any work from blizz side.
Tank x dps lobbys and pure dps lobbys.
Had the same idea regarding ebg premadeissue and healers boycotting the queue well we now have 0 healer maps or just 1-2 vs entire wall. instead of maps not opening up anymore >_>

just like rdruid is worst in bgb to make progress
When i starfallbottet as boomy i barely saw any rdruids,just way later in the 3.2 mmr bracket where those guys probably wanted to push towards Forged marshall cutoff. And those were not your average rdruids but dudes with multiple glads/elite. Kinda foretelling how this season will look for the normal rdruid enjoyer.
It’s over before it even began x_x
Mw has been op for any bg scene for too long, not much point play anything else there till blizz do something. Revive and cocoon are too good cds and its mobility and healing output is too good. I played disc little but meh its still meh at best compared to anything mw can do. Rdruid I would not even play at all by the looks of it, bad for every mode except some 2s that nobody plays anymore.
Unless one has mw I would not even heal at all, unless they have hpala and are really into shuffle/3v3. I have rdruid, rsham and they just removed rapture from my disc aswell so I guess I dont need to play heals. I dont have mw or hpala and I dont really have reason making one when I got s+ tier dps classes that I can just play if not any of the 4 heal specs I play happens to be good. So I guess the ball is on blizzards end how they wanna balance the game, how many ppl play heals etc.
The players wont play bad specs and they wont play modes with roles that are worse to progress there compared to something else, its all on blizzards hands how to proceed from here and how many healers we will see in various modes. For all of our sake lets hope they have capable people for making any changes so we would see something get better on the whole situation pvp is in.

Idk, maybe i’m missing something but i see no value in it,real inca > fake inca so far. Which means well with bubble and 3 stacks bloom missing u can just use mobility/utility pvp-talents no one plays since shadowlands. Those deeproots will come in handy.
Lets see it from the positive side, we just have to wait for the Awcs for changes to happen
If you ask me instant cast tranq immunity have more value than new tree of life… 1.5 sec cast pseudo shapeshift is not good in reallity, because to cast it safe you need to go around pillar but then you move like sneal and you need to come out of pillar, if you try to cast it in mid of combat you will eat evry possible interrupt because this is no1 priority to interupt. And even when you finaly somehow pass that cast, you will probably need to heal yourself because people will do their best to not allow you to cast it.

3 stacks bloom missing
This one is not issue , its compensated with Symbiotic relationship spell which is undispellable and very nice.

Lets see it from the positive side
Tranquility nerf is BIG one, it was very important tool for us to surivive in this hyper burst enviroment. Only thing which can compensate there is full tier armor set bonus. But I doubt it will competly compensate.
I will never understand why in the first place they want to put pet everywhere, before it was only bm/demono/uh and that’s all.
Now everybody got pet and make the game so toxic, treant druid is terrible design imo they need to try something else.
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