After playing the campaign on both sides, I just can’t consider the alliance version of this questline to be canon in any form (lack of cinematic, turning into some random forsaken while playing the role of “Maw Walker” and “Champion of Azeroth”, having to stay in Horde disguise all the time even outside of the Horde territories) all of it feels like BfA 2.0 where alliance doesn’t get their own story so they need to see the Horde story instead. Going into the topic - First of all - why can alliance access Blood Elf Dark Ranger model through Void Elves (which doesn’t make any sense) while the Horde can’t access te Night Elf one through Nightborne? If the entire theme of this patch is crossfaction, why can’t we access the real “crossfaction race” on both sides? Not to even mention that there is no lore reason at all for Dark Rangers to go to the alliance, which will most likely try to eliminate them as soon as they spot them anywhwere near alliance grounds. Delaryn leading the Night Elven Dark Rangers clearly states that she will not return to the alliance and instead she will remain with the Horde since the Forsaken are her new family. It all feels just weird.
I mean, Alliance got a story during BFA. A lot of the small plots were awesome, like Drustvar etc.
However the main plot: Jaina and Friends, was like watching a cheesey Disney movie.
I think Void Elfs Only got it in order to stop them crying, like last time they wanted blood elf options.
But Yeah This Makes no sense ,Even more when you Consider that Tyralion ( die soon please) is Leader of Ally and they are heretics to Him
I didn’t mean the Zandalar/Kul Tiras campaigns, but instead the War Campaign and Raids. Alliance played basically no role there since it was all just about Saurfang’s road to sacrifice to end the war. Also most raids didn’t make sense on alliance side - Uldir was just fully out of place, and seems that the canon ending was with G’huun getting stabbed with Vol’jin’s glaive. Crucible of Storms literally ended with Horde taking Xal’atath and getting manipulated into giving it to Sylvanas (no way alliance canonically did this raid), Ny’alotha - N’zoth doesn’t even have alliance dialogues. During the fight he compares us to himself, how we both were betrayed - him by Azshara, and us by Sylvanas - this dialogue makes sense only on Horde, and alliance doesn’t have a different dialogue.
We won though.
So there’s that.
As for the customization… It’s just there for fun.
There’s no official playable dark rangers. You can make ‘dead elf’ mages, priests and whatnot. So why not let void elves share in the fun? I don’t see the problem.
The reason why I think nightborne didn’t get it is because that would’ve required extra work. The skin/eyes we got already existed for the models we got.
yeah but with horde help
I get where you’re coming from, but I don’t completely agree with you on a few points. But I’ll let you take that.
However, Shadowlands is primarily an Alliance Story. All the Alliance characters are running the show, Bolvar, Jaina, Thrall, Baine… Where are all the horde?
Not when you see the actual losses on both sides. Horde didn’t really lose much - Zandalari fleet didn’t even belong to the Horde and Zandalari only got pushed to join the Horde. Alliance only won 2 warfronts, but in terms of actual losses, the Horde seems to be in a better shape now. Alliance lost its military force - it’s pretty much depleted (Genn saying about recruiting farmers, most likely thanks to Anduin’s idea about a “surprise attack” that required sacrificing a big part of alliance army in Nazmir), all of their bases are gone from Zandalar (while the Horde ones seem to still remain in Kul Tiras), their fleet was also wounded by Azshara in Nazjatar and the most important thing - it was the alliance that needed Horde’s help to end the war, not the other way.
No, we just lost a King! And the entire Horde turned against the Warchief and hey BF, and Goblin Money Bank.
Well thankfully all that silly faction war is done.
Let’s just cooperate and make a better Azeroth. Together.
Turalyon becoming the next raid boss will be the perfect moment to show that. This guy seems to be a threat to the “no more faction war” thing, and will most likely end up like Garrosh.
A lot of signs point to that yeah.
First let’s deal with dragon stuff. 
Tbh, Dragonflight may be a Pandaria 2.0 (and I guess many of us will be actually okay with that) - Last boss wasn’t related to Pandaria in any way, but instead someone we knew before for some time. And with all the theories/whispers/dialogues etc. it seems like he will be the next one in line. Especially now when we know that all of the Nathrezim served only Denathrius, and Turalyon had Lothraxion by his side for a long time.
Night elfs who go to Dark Ranger Look should be ok whatever happened on bfa because they are sylvanas loyalist now. But personal opinion there cant be alliance side Dark Ranger its just impossible
Do the ‘big’ characters know about him being a traitor?
I mean; we found this information, didn’t we? Did we ever ‘share that info’ with them?
Nope, the players (and I guess the Shadowlands’ factions) seem to be the only ones who know this. So I guess he should expect some interesting talk after the return from Shadowlands.
Nothing is impossible in a universe with magic.
But also; player characters are special. We are not the average individuals from our races. We make choices normal people don’t make. We have powers normal people don’t have. So I could totally see a Dark Ranger choosing to return to their Night Elf roots.
This is also the basis for cross faction gameplay.
Regular citizens of the horde and alliance don’t mingle. But we, the ‘special ones’, the champions or whatever they like to call us, we do.
I’m sorry but who asked for Dark ranger void elves? I don’t recall any Void elf player who did. I’m not even using it at all.
But I guess Horde ego needs to find ways to complain about Void elves somehow
The problem goes the other way tho. There is no way Turalyon would let that happen. They also need help in dealing with their undeath, and the Forsaken are the only ones who can be trusted with that. And I guess even alliance races will experience some “issues” because of him.
Maybe true, but Turalyon is also married to a void elf so…… yeah