Death from Above is the ability that i miss the most for Sub.
Seeing that BIG number with COOLEST animation felt so satisfying.
Legion Sub was Fun and worked well in M+… what happened ? why did they wrecked this spec so much into unplayable state ?)
Loosing DfA and Shuriken Combo totaly killed that Spec for whole BfA + that AoE Azerite trait have ONLY 2% proc chance per CP with you Nightblade is the bumbest trait… (shame on you whoever designed that trait )
Reason why they deleted Shuriken Combo is simple… it did too much dmg to single target in one boss encounter ok… it was issue, they did right thing… But we didn’t get any compensation… why ?! (Devs only said the reason why they removed it… but nothing else…)
Their respond to Slice and Dice problem in Openner is “new” TALENT Premeditation limited to Shadowstrike… They basically took WOD core mechanic and make talent out of it… this is disappointing
Just delete Slice and dice from game and forget it.
new AoE finisher Shadow Vault sucks … scrap it please !
I would rather use Secret Techniques baseline (rework animation please… something like shadowy Bone Spike hit)
tbh i find rogue plays Pretty well, they perform well in all content overall… my problem with them. is we’re sitting on a 4 year Meta with classes like Rogue.
Outlaw being M+ top DPS Assassination being Raid top DPS.
i find All 3 Tier DPS Classes seem to have this issue though… they’re just basically held to the same specc for multiple expansions at a time and you kinda see half assed changes for the Speccs they obviously dont want to be Meta.
prolly for the same reason they keep letting speccs like feral rot for long periods of time…
They arent braindead, Which means Players who dont wanna learn their classes properly or just want to be able to FoTM wont feel so good when they cant perform with the specc.
Outlaw is much easier for a player to walk into comparitively.
oh yea… in shadowlands… there has been no number tweaking yet for rogues.
currently on PTR:
Eviscerate 30%… melee auto attacks 27% (that kinda weird and bad )
then Shadowstrike 14% then Ruprute 14% then Backstab 12%
yea Evis should be around 40% - max 50% dmg… Auto attacks are too strong (2x more dmg than Rupture LOL)
we just have to wait for more changes and number tweaking…
Yeah things will change once we reach 60 and get raid gear. Potentially eventually tier sets and all that over stuff but in general what i have seen on the beta is that shadowstrike does way more damage than evis. Which sub rogue has always been about the evis. Yet it just tickles
yes I am very sure I play the same class, infact the only thing obstructing me from pushing mythic progression / cutting edge levels of progression on this class is my own choice of not being locked to a time schedule.
as far as I’m concerned, the rogue I play now and the rogue I fell in love with are very distinctly different and the version we have now is very disappointing in my eyes and is easily one of the most unfriendly classes to just pick up.
Sure they have specs which perform well in every means of content but enjoy hoarding 50+ pieces of loot in your bag in that case to perform well in all of it.
Rupture is useless because Sanguinary Vein passive ability doesn’t exist anymore
Sanguinary Vein: Increases the damage of your Rupture ability by 50% and causes you to deal 35% additional damage to targets afflicted by your Rupture, Garrote or (deleted ability Crimson Tempest)
Slice and Dice used to increase energy regeneration while active too, that too doesn’t exist in the game.
rupture is not useless because there’s no SV. it does damage regardless. if tuned to the point where it’s stronger than evis, it’s fine without SV because it lets you make a decision about whether you want to use it or not in a given situation. eviscerate is more explosive, rupture is more damage. if you’re able to put up rupture before bursting you’re rewarded for that, but you’re also not incapable of bursting without it.
nightblade is mandatory for bursting in bfa, there is no decision. you are useless without it. though that has more to do with night’s vengeance than the 15% damage modifier. SV at 15% would probably be fine as well, 35% SV is the same problem as nightblade in bfa.
slice does increase energy regen significantly. it makes you proc more shadow techniques, which gives you energy in 2 ways. first, the proc itself gives you energy. second, the combo points it gives result in more finishers, which gives you more energy because of relentless strikes. the spec plays considerably faster outside of dance than it does in bfa, i’d say it’s about like legion when we had energetic stabbing.
i don’t agree that it was nearly as bad as you’re describing here. i didn’t have many problems progressing tomb with it. the two problems i can think of are landing in the goop on mistress which made it miss and timing it so that the balls on maiden spawned mid-air.
i joined mid-farm in antorus, but can’t recall it being particularly bad whenever i tried messing around with it. i had to be in the back group on kin’garoth but that’s not the end of the world.
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… scrap it please !
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