No more chatting (Thoughts from a newcomer)

Hello everybody.

This is my first forum post, so apologies if I posted this in the wrong place.

I recently started playing WoW (I had bought the game when Burning Crusade was first released, but never really played the game until now) and for me, chatting and meeting new players has always been a massively important part of any mmo. That is what keeps me engaged.

Soon after starting I was introduced to Newcomer chat and I quickly learned that it is a very recent addition - and what a brilliant addition that is. The chatting was very helpful and often fun, the social aspect quickly became one of the most important aspects of the game for me. However, after hitting level 50, I was kicked out of the chat - yet I am still very much a newcomer and don’t know or understand over half the stuff going on. However, I can manage learning everything on my own, that is fine, but it’s the social aspect that I lost all of a sudden that truly killed the motivation to play the game.

I tried to join a couple of guilds, but despite the many members, nobody really chats. So, the game started feeling like a single player and although I’ve been trying some dungeons, it doesn’t add much of a social aspect to the game when it’s all about rushing through it as quickly as possible with little to no chatting. It appears there isn’t much of a
chatting culture in the game, or perhaps I’ve just looked in the wrong places (is there any world which has active zone chats?).

It bothers me that there is no other chat like Newcomer chat, which was very active throughout the day across different worlds too. I don’t really like how they limit chatting to certain parts of the world, as they don’t seem active - quite dead actually. I wish there was a global chat like the Newcomer chat for everybody to enjoy.

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I think you got kicked because you are not considered a newcommer anymore after 50
(maybe just suposition).But my advice is to search for a guilde.When i say search for a guild actually interest yourself in the guild not just join the first one on trade chat.You probably didn’t join a Guild you joined a cess-pool bottom of the ocean “Guild” that have no reason to exist but to mass invite people and rake some gold amounts off the activities they do.

If you want to have a good experience you have to be willing to put some time into researching the guild you are looking for,raiding guilds are unironically the most social guilds.Especially on raid times just need to fiind one at your level.

you can also attempt to make a character on a role play realm type of server those people there tend to be more about having a good chat but maybe you are not into role-playing so that might be bad.

you can try looking for communities built around social activities. no idea whether those have chats or how they work but it’s worth a try

Newcommer chat is one of those half-baked features Blizorg never bothered to finish, you can rejoin as a Guide but requirements are pretty absurd

As mentioned before, join raiding guild, those who also raid mythic are usually the most social, go to wowprogress and look up top guilds in your realm, any decent guild will have description there and raid times etc - would pick one which is at least 10/10 heroic and 3/10 mythic. Find one which fits your time-schedule and apply by messaging their officers

search for Scared of Dungeons community… that chat is always buzzy :rofl:

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Another thing to bear in mind is that a lot of guild chat happens in voice channels now. Things like Discord make voice chat free for all and allow for a greater range of expression than text chatting. Most of my guild are active on discord for at least part of the evenings and always for raids.
Typing while trying to tank heal or dps is difficult so people prefer to be on voice to talk and it also makes coordinating play in dungeons and raids so much easier.

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Communication has shifted to other means, many guilds I’ve been in are most lively on discord for example. Everyone can access it all the time.

Finding a social guild is far harder than finding a raiding guild because raiding guilds do recruitment far more often.

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The chat activity ingame very much depends on a realm’s population. I don’t know on which realm you’re playing but would suggest to select one of the more popular realms if you explicitely seek for chat buddies. I think there’s a thread in this forum for people, who want to make friends ingame, too.

.o(Should probably post there, too at one point… :thinking:)

Usually, the liveliest chats are the general and trading chats in greater cities, where you can ask questions about gameplay any time. In most cases, an experienced player will answer you directly in the public chat or whisper you to respond.

Finding a realmwide casual chat is a bit more difficult and it indeed is never guaranteed that joining a community or guild will offer you a lively chat option. Successfully building up an inter-active guild in WoW is as difficult as starting a good chat group on social media platforms. A lot of people will join eventually but never say a word. That’s a phenomenon really worrying me about today’s online community. “Together alone” is a concept that turns a lot of “social platforms” into feed based ghost cities, where the communication between people is pretty much reduced to liking posts and writing short reaction replies in the comment section.

Many have unlearned how to have a proper conversation with people other than for the purpose of rating their content or getting information. Making personal contact, keeping in touch and having personal conversations is no common practice anymore. And the pandemic made that painfully clear.

My suggestion for you would be to join a role play guild. Those people take much pride in ranting for hours without pause and tell you the whole game lore in a personal novel, even if no one has asked for it. We have some exceptional talents regarding that on the forum. x’)

Hi Ralforan,

Most guilds chat on Discord now, rather than using guild chat.

The best thing you can do is find a nice healthy sized guild with an active discord.

All the best !

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No really. I’m on a full server and you could basically delete /1 and /2 since /1 isn’t used anyway and /2 is just “WTS boosting”.

There is no chat going on.

Okay… then my half dead RP realm defo is better at that. :joy:

What I would suggest here is that you’ve probably sampled about 100 people out of over a million players :smile_cat: Just because some guilds don’t talk doesn’t mean all guilds are silent. You just didn’t join the ones that suited you.

Or maybe…

…they were chatting outside the game and you didn’t notice? My guild discord gets a lot of chatter because people can quietly use it while at work - but in-game chat can be nearly dead unless we’re approaching raid time :smile_cat:

This is a good call. Communities are x-realm, so you have access to all of them, and can be in multiple at the same time. Easy to ‘shop around’ and take your time over working out which one(s) fit you best. Look for communities that advertise a discord server, because this is the social glue!

It is, unfortunately the OP seems to be Horde… I’m told Zen Horde are very friendly to newcomers, but I don’t know how much banter goes on there.

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Exactly, everyone can access it all the time. Some people are most active while at work as well :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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most guild spend time on discords.

why write when you can speak

One way Blizzard could save the social part of the game is by adding a server wide chat channel. People who don’t like it can simply leave the channel.

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I feel called out :joy_cat:

But yeah, discord is now the lifeblood of guilds and communities that have a social element.

I literally only join voice for dungeons and raids (or D&D games) :joy_cat:

Not that I have anything against voice chat, I’m quite happy using it, but it’s probably only 10-20% of the communication I do via discord :smile_cat:

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Sssh, don’t tell the boss or I’ll get rumbled

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Some servers have world chats that are pretty much Barrens chat 24/7.

Don’t know about your server but ask around in trade and see.

You are completely right and guilds chatting on Discord does not help the matter either because they only interact with other guild members or people on their Discord channel. So they pay no attention to the new guy waving and greeting and jumping and poking his heart out to try and get someone to help them. Guilds may be helpful to guild members but not to new players that do not form part of their guild. It’s like isolation inside of a supposed accessible community and that lead to a breakdown of communication and a seeming silent community. Being less social in a social game.

As a new player you run into stuff like quests you don’t know how to do. Is it better to ask your guild, who most likely is busy doing something else, or the guy next to you who is doing the same thing as you? If you could ask the guy next to you he could help you faster where as your guild would be like “You want to do what? Where are you again?”. This creates the situation where 2 people right next to each other doing the same content trying to get help from 2 different guilds on their respective Discord channels while both guilds have no idea what they are talking about. Instead if they just talked to each other they could figure it out.

Whenever I see someone doing the same stuff as I am, I invite them. It may be a new player or a lower geared player that might need some help.

To fix this WoW needs to put in localized in-game voice chat. That meaning everyone within a certain range of you in the open world can voice chat with you or in instanced content everyone within the instance can voice chat in-game.

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I feel the OP at this bit. I think that the many stuff to be done, and the fact you only need to group up for dungeons, PvP and raids kills the need to find other players to regularly play with. Sure there must be a grind in every game but… it’s really a bit much.
And the fast pace of IRL definitely seeps into the game as well, not to mention aging players. Back then everyone easily had 8+ hours a day to play, now it’s even less than 2 or 3 with work, family, girl/boyfriend, studies, and you’d naturally want to get stuff done and progress over stopping for a chat when your free time feels negligible and you’re paying to play since… every minute counts. :disappointed_relieved: