No reward for being caster anymore

It feels pointless to fake cast anymore. Because if they miss the kick, it’s just followed up with a stun, or some other form of CC.

Make precognition baseline at least to reward fake casting. Melee can just Zug Zug, miss their kick, use another CC and continue their PvE rotation with their stupid 100% uptime on the player.

Imagine if melee could get disarmed every 40 seconds. They would LOSE their MINDS.

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meele can get disarmed all 40 seconds tho

also wasting CC Stuns and DR´s for stopping a Cast is pretty decent trade off

Not all caster can disarm. So either blizzard gives every caster a disarm or remove some silence/interrupts from melees. It is totally stupid that every melee can interrupt but not every caster can disarm.

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Naze we could have another s3 shadowlands warlock season
or another BFA Corruption MLD fiesta

or another Dragonflight s1 Destro/Demo

ur rating wont change having a discussion with u about balance is useless because u balance about ur feelings how u feel;( rather on gamexp

its always the same with u even if every rank1 warlock says warlock is good S tier or OP u deny it and rather see other classes nerfed

i think maybe u should play furywarrior maybe WL is not ur class its ok i suck on warlock aswell but atleast i admit it

Ahh yes. The great argument that a R1 warlock said the warlock is good. You know what, the rich people say economic system is also good. We have a awful economic system and a awful pvp system.

We shouldn’t balance the game around guys who make youtube complations. Maybe, hear me out, maybe we should try to get general population happy. What do you say.

Ps. Demo is pretty good though. Maybe tweek a little with pvp scaling.

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its not just one R1 warlock also they Multiclass anyway its alot also the Statistic also Proof that Warlock is in a very good State specially Destro and Demo

whos making youtube complication about pvp anymore except NA people? the general population is happy or not? in low rating balance doesnt matter at all i mean alot of ppl proved already u can uprank with any comp to a certain rating or with any specc

well apparently wow trys to be a little competetive tho and competetiv games are getting balanced mostly around the top % if u look at league for example they only do a few minor changes like rammus or yi garen volibear nerfs/buffs but the main game gets balanced on the higher end

but if warlock rn is S tier with 2 Speccs and u cant climb i mean idk what else u want BFA S4 i think was the last time Warlock was turbo giga broken and maybe Set Piece Lock + Echo

but anyway i dont think they will balance anyway for EU. EU is a super tryhard FOTM Region NA is way more casual and relaxed also they dont have alot of RMP`s Junglecleaves and Castercleaves like EU theyre more a Zuggy region

nerf meeles would kill 80% of the player base probably xd i mean they have multiple R1 Warriors and Balance Druids in highmmr while on EU Warriors and Balance Druid just no bueno cuz everybody is just playing S tier Comps in EU and enjoying Mirror Matches everygame

Your not the only that thinks that’s tauren excrement. Monks are second offenders then its druids. Aoe stuns untergetable mobility and giga damage. Welcome to powercreep. They also have glaive with slow

Well statistics doesn’t help me to have fun. 400 of top 500 could be warlock. That doesn’t mean i like to get trained into oblivion by melees.

You literally have no excuse as ele. You gained more roots, a leap and 99% of your DMG is instant. You don’t even understand what normal casters have to live through

You seem to missunderstand me, did not say that its harder as ele, I’m saying despite having those tools melee are able to reconnect with ease.

Wow great you are totally wrong, how is it fair that melees can shut down range dps with interrupt but casters are not allowed to disarm melees?

I agree that warlock is s Tier but not op. Op means there will be a lot more warlocks, like dh around.

Chdck shuffle ladder there on the same lvl

So that answer is not saying if it is fair or not. Caster are just used to it. But it is unfair. Not only have s lot of melee high amount of mobility they also can interrupt casters.

Just saying the game has a good balance, but they need to adjust some melee vs caster things. Like mobility and damage from some melees.

i mean than dont play caster? Casters especially lock always were trained to death. If you dont like this kind of playstyle dont play a caster

For what exactly should you be rewarded? You are a range dps which is broken rn mr sp

There is no good balance if casters are op in the 1 season

I don’t think they are op, yes shadow and Demo are really strong. Still both have weaknesses.

I think the comparisons fly around a bit everywhere.

Hypothetically and arbitrarily speaking, if a Demon Hunter and Warlock were equally good, and the same average-skilled player had to play both, then that player would probably achieve slightly more success on the Demon Hunter.

Because the skill-floor is lower on the Demon Hunter.

It’s generally perceived that melee dps specs are easier to play adequately than caster dps specs.
The mechanics are more straightforward, there’s less finesse to the gameplay, and the playstyle fits the strategies.

There’s no cast bar to account for, the rotation doesn’t deviate much from the design intent, and the Arena style of focusing on a single target fits a class design where the strength lies in a single-target focus.

That’s in contrast to the caster dps where the mechanics are a bit more complicated, it requires a little more finesse to play well, and the playstyle is often shoehorned to fit the strategy.

Prosaically speaking, then it’s easier to press Chaos Strike than it is to press Shadow Bolt.
It’s easier to dps a single target than to multi-dot several targets.
It’s easier to try and stick to melee distance than to try and stick to range distance.
And so forth.

Skill-floor inadequacies don’t mean much to the top players and their performance, because they can play everything to its skill-ceiling anyway. So long as the skill-ceiling is balanced across all the specs, then the skill-floor doesn’t matter to them.

But for more average-skilled players, for whom reaching the skill-ceiling on a spec is not realistic, what determines their performance is more the skill-floor balance.
For those players the spec that is really powerful but really hard to play is less likely to give them good results versus the decently-powerful spec that is super easy to play.

Because the skill-floor matters more than the skill-ceiling for the vast majority of players.
And that’s why there’s a prominence of specs with a low skill-floor. They’re just easier to perform adequately with. That’s way more appealing to people than a spec that is super powerful but also so difficult to play that they can never pull it off.

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The man and the legend has returned to us!

It’s absolutely freaking awful playing caster at the moment. Even if you manage to fake cast with precognition, thats only 5 seconds of time you get! No way in hell are you managing to set up any damage in 5 seconds when you are probably 20% already from getting railed by absolute braindead PvE players in solo shuffle.
And if they don’t kick you get stunned for 5 seconds 3 times every 30 seconds… I feel like you are not a caster anymore at all since you cannot actually cast, this makes solo shuffle absolutely miserable for any healer or caster dps.
To fix it:

  1. Increase CD on ALL mobility in PvP and not just a bit, I mean so you can ACTUALLY KITE AND GET A CAST OFF ONCE IN WHILE!
  2. Increase interrupt cooldown OR reduce interrupt duration (it is already insane duration plus wasted cast time faking).
  3. Increase damage of casted spells
  4. Reduce cooldown power, you should not only be able to kill with massive CD stackings and if casted spells got buffed it would obviously need nerfs.
  5. Increase cooldown on stuns (there are simply way too many atm) or decrease durations.
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