Yes, i have 13 pieces bought from the AH, a 3rd of them 558 since any higher would have been over 8k each. I’m still 11 ilvls average below the queueing limit.
The point is still that before, you were able to run dungeons and gear up slowly but surely all the way up to M+ and not get bottle necked at normal dungeons and gated behind weekly quests, rep or crystal farming etc.
Its his 3rd actualy , its not as bad as u make it look like
I agree that this feels like an oversight. Being fully geared from Normal Dungeons should be sufficient to queue for HC Dungeons. To bump the ilvl requirement above that just creates an incongruent gap.
To now leave players in a weird spot where they may have to pause progress on their character to wait for enough weekly cache rewards to hit the HC ilvl is ridiculous given that HC dungeons and gear are intended only as a stop-gap to start Mythic. They aren’t really actual endgame content.
Bountiful Delves give high ilvl rewards, relative to their difficult, even at Tier 6 if Tier 8 isn’t manageable, but spending the keys on a stop gap to HC feels bad because you absolutely want to spend them on Tier 8 chests for the 603 gear after you gear in Heroics.
Newer players are also not likely to have much gold to buy AH gear.
Were the Heroic Dungeons made more difficult to compensate for the higher ilvl rewards (though it’s the same track gear, only upgraded, basically saving Valorstones).
That might be, i leveled all my alts just by running dungeons meaning i have no resonance crystals for renowned gear since i spent the ones i got from quests etc on my main.
Each renown piece goes for what? 2600 crystals each? That’s 7800 crystals to farm through quests. The point is still that there’s now a significant gap in gearing progress for alts compared to earlier when you could just run normals to gear alts and immediately progress to heroic without being gated with weekly quests or farming.
Go to Hallowfall, when the Light cache thingy is up (yesterday it was) and spam quests there, light all torches you see to get even more quests, repeat. It gives ridiculous ammounts of crystals. Like 250 per quest, plus more in the bags you get. Took me like 2 hours to finish most of them and that was playing with 1 hand, cuz I was eating with the other lol. Easy 1x ilvl584 right there. No money required. And you get the cache, too, with even more gold, item, restored key and other goodies inside.
Go buy 2x ilvl577 trinkets (Darkmoon cards) from the AH, each costs like 200g max, maaaybe 300 if someone is playing the AH, but still peanuts and pocket money for epic quality trinkets.
Gear is almost literally raining like candy from the sky, donno how much easier you need it to be… There are world quests giving 800g+ as a reward and there is usually 2-3 up, literal free money. Do the theater WQ right in front of the main city, it is always up every hour (once per week though), to get mats, crests and gold. Free handouts everywhere you look.
Free handouts, maybe. But I personally prefer to grind dungeons for my gear as I enjoy the activity. The rest, not so much.
What irks me, is that Tuesday I was able to enter Heroics with all my alts at ilvl 551+ and that the day after I was not able to anymore. Why? What changed? I doubt the scaling of the Heroic difficulty went up, so why can’t we enter with ilvl 551-566 characters? Why has it been changed to 567?
It’s not that I can’t do all of the other stuff - I can. It’s just that one day I was able to do my preferred way of gearing up and the other day I can’t.
If they made the Normal dungeon gear gained upon level 80 upgradeable with Valorstones to an ilvl of 570, I wouldn’t have any problems with this change what so ever, but because it leaves a rather annoying gap between Normal and Heroics (which should imho flow into one another), I don’t think this is acceptable.
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I’ve not seen world quests paying that much gold. If you’re talking about the dragon racing ones, then they’re around 165 gold now.
Enlighten me.
You are a Dk .
Yday i was 563 ilvl . Today i am 600 ilvl by doing delves…
at 563 i did +8 Delve and getting some nice 603 ilvl 
The choices are there .
Solo? i cant find any group who accept my 569 ilvl
As a Dk with Brann as Dps you can easilly do 8 at 570 ilvl.
You can try lower to see you skill lvl and more likely to understand how the dungeon go. ( A 6 is pretty manageable and give 590 ilvl ~
It’s mostly to understand how to play effective with Bran and have him keep agro while you dps and avoid things . I did it as Unholy and really pays off .
Stupid change.
Even 551 was quite high for the very easy difficulty of heroic dungeons.
Not racing quests, just regular world quests. I just did 3 last night on my lock. 806 or 808g per quest, can’t remember exactly the number. But that’s 2400g right there for 15 minutes.
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