Not enough mystery in it anymore?

Im not salty. Never insulted you in any way.

And why coment? Because I disagree with you. Only people that agree with you are allowed to post?

And if I am looking for a fight? No, not really. But a fight would sure be entertaining. So hit it ! :smiley:

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Itā€™s not just to World of Warcraft. Brighter Shores released and I saw a lot if Runescape players blasting through the dialogue without knowing what to do next. Every game just needs a big arrow to poiny the average drone in where he needs to go.

No you cannot because even developers do everything by communityā€¦ They know its leakedā€¦they know it will be leakedā€¦they will make it to much hard it will not be available without tutorial from some group of people revealing it ā€¦like for example lucid nightmareā€¦i would never have that mount because im not on same lvl of knowledge like people who reveal that.

I never read leveling guides and it still lacks a sense of adventure compared even to most indie RPGs. People prefer quantity over quality for questing and this results in even the campaign quests being shallow, predictable and unengaging.

As for people who say ā€œzomg classic was so much better when you had to figure things outā€¦ā€
I leveled a race Iā€™ve never played a while ago and after an hour I got stuck on a quest, refused to look up a guide, but gave up an hour later and checked wowhead. Found an article from 15 years ago saying "oh yeah, mob is bugged and actually spawns in a completely separate place in X,Yā€¦

But in short, itā€™s entirely up to you whether you want to level efficiently and read a guide, or discover everything for yourself. Content creators pump out content because itā€™s literally their job, but it doesnā€™t mean any of it is necessary to play the game.
99% of tutorials on youtube are worthless and only exist for ad revenue.

People need to stop worrying so much about ā€œspoilersā€.
If you canā€™t enjoy WoW (another game, a movie, etc. etc.) then itā€™s on you to not go where you get spoiled. Turn off the youtube tracking thing, donā€™t go on reddit/wowhead/whatever.
Personally I have no idea what Blizzard says the next 2 expansions are about because 1: if I saw it I have happily forgotten, 2: I can stay tf out of the places where people post spoilers for it.

You want to explore go do it rather than read the guide/watch the video.

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You can decide not to read yes however can you remove them pin markers, how do you track a quest with out it reveling the destination on the map? I donā€™t think you can

If you donā€™t want to see the quest on the map, go play classic. Alternatively donā€™t open your map

But you reading a guide how to get a mount and downloading an addon or watching a youtube tutorial of how to do the maze is completely different hereā€¦

You can also read patch notes, doesnā€™t mean you have to watch youtube videos titled ā€œThings you need to do in Patch 11.1.1.1ā€ā€¦ Blizzard has become pretty good, at showing you around, almost all new zones comes with a ā€œSpeak to this NPCā€¦ Now speak to this NPCā€¦ Now craft this itemā€¦ Now use this tokenā€

Stop visiting MMO-C and WoWHead, and avoid WoW related YouTube vids, not that hard.

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Idk It feel like Im playing ptr in retail already, I have bug that I had to make ticket for which were challenge on itself and I can just imagine the copy pasta Ill get after waiting days for reply or it gets solved on itself on next reset. Idk do I need to buy a mount or something beside the sub or the cost of expansion to be able play without riddled by bugs and no proper means to contact gm while bugs in game prevent me to play.

If it was up to me, Iā€™d leave all of the story quests out of the beta with no possibility to be tested or datamined. Iā€™m fine with a few bugs. For dungeons and raids I would change the enemies to anonym cubes and anonym abilities, if the characters have some sort of lore related stuff. But yes I donā€™t like datamining in that regard, Iā€™ve found that I cannot avoid it one form or the other unless I use no socials for months. Which Iā€™m not going to do.

I mean your all saying it was added because of add-ons but was it? I think most used add-ons after they did there first run through not before

What if you could not spoil yourself instead ? Are you really saying the game is too much tested ? We already playing a beta with ā€˜in time developmentā€™.

I would litterally suggest the opposite and test way more the game before releasing itā€¦
Specially after 11.0.5 where they broke many classes some overtuned for a short term du to bug (obviouly a lack of tests and efforts) like elem or outlaw and some undertuned for a while like arcane mage that was very good until it and became a dead spec and still is.

When I did the Dragonflight Secrets, I looked up quite a bit of it. This time around Iā€™m doing it with my daughter and a good friend, and we chat in discord, discuss the clues and we figure it out the three of us. Itā€™s so much fun this way, it helps a ton to have more than one brain and one pair of eyes working on it! Some of the crates were impossible for us tho lol.

The only way to solve that us for you to not read anything about it online.
Even FFXIV that has no public PTR, announces their upcoming content. That has always been the case. How much you get exposed to it, is up to you.
If you stay out of forums/social networks and wow news websites the content will be a surprise.