Not enough Valor cap?

Can someone clarify if the Season Maximum of 7,250 Valor is the limit or does it reset weekly and the “Season” thing is just a typo bug ?

Or if this is true how can you upgrade say a 184 item 1H when it costs 750 Valor per upgrade then how do we upgrade so many items, Or is the plan that you get as close to your highest iLvl items in drops from M+ and then upgrade them from say a 11 to a 12 drop or something??

If 7,250 is the season maximum when can we expect a reset 9.1 maybe??

The limit increases with each reset.

Do you happent o know by how much it increases please?

750

/10char

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Thanks!, That seems a bit low when it costs 1k to upgrade 1 2h by 3 ilvls. xD

The prices are absurd. Blizzard puts the same upgrade value on 200 to 203 and 216 to 220. Prices should increase like honor and mana pearls do. Start low, go high.

Well, you’re not supposed to upgrade from 184 item level all the way to 220.

The system exists so that when you hit a Mythic+ key level that your gear is too low for you can start upgrading the gear you got from the key levels you could still manage doing.

If I am prepared to farm 100,000 valor to do that then why cant I ? It,s not any different to people spamming Arena for Conquest points to buy 200+ ilvl items.

And they give 197 for finishing Campaign so why do we have to pay so much Valor for ilvl 184 up to 197 ilvl surely there should be a massive reduction from 184->200 then increase the costs.

I’d imagine Blizz don’t want the negative publicity that comes from “Player dies of exhaustion after pointless grind”.

But “Player dies of pointless anima grinding for cosmetics and mounts” publicity would be acceptable… :smiley:

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Because it skews the progression path. If you have it uncapped you make all PvE content except Mythic raids obsolete instantly because you can just upgrade to almost-mythic item level.

It would ruin the Mythic progression completely by making it way too easy for higher-end guilds or virtually impossible to complete for the lower tier mythic guilds.

Don’t forget that M+ and Valor is not a standalone progression system, there are only 2 - PvE & PvP.

PvE has World Content, Dungeons, Mythic+ & Raids
PvP has Rated and Unrated Arenas & Battlegrounds

Much of the players don’t know that this is how Blizzard views the game and they have the wrong impression of in-game progression because of it.

Keep in mind, this is primarily designed to complement the next tier coming in 9.1, it’s NOT a catch-up system for 9.0.

Having a valor cap makes no sense at all. If you really run that many dungeons, you’re entitled to have some 220 gear imo. You’ve already proven yourself to be capable of timing every dungeon at +15, and you’ve ran a ton of dungeons to get the valor. The only thing I’d like to change, is that dungeons should reward valor based on their key level, not a static amount.

This system is crap. Grindy AF and hardly even useful on mains that played the expansion since its launch.

Compare it to WOD valor points introduced in patch 6.2.3
All gear in the game could be upgraded by 10 ilvl’s total, in 5 ilvl increments
It costed 250 points for upgrade - 500 for one item
And now the funny part - you received 300 valor for each dungeon on mythic. You could get 2400 valor from doing those dungeons alone. Enough to upgrade several items in a single week.

Shadowlands valor look like a joke compared to these systems from MOP and WOD. They’re restrictive, grindy and provide hardly any upgrade. High-end players gain no benefit from this, as gear caps out at 226/233 anyway, whereas in those previous expacs all gear could be upgraded, your bis items from mythic raid became even better with it.

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To me it just doesnt make sense that a +2 gives the same amount of valor as a +15
135 valor should be a starting point and then idk make 15s drop 350 or something
Also the prices are ridiculous i hope they get tuned properly next patch

I think that PVE and PVP lines have been blurred ever since they allowed the 2 to mix gear and you can earn gear from both areas and use in both so the lines are so closely together now its natural people will do PVP and still use the same gear in PVE.

Why there isnt a reduced cost for upgrading to 197 ilvl using Valor makes no sense when as stated they give it basically free for completing the campaign so eith er do the campaign or farm valor thats your choice.

Upgrading to Mythic Item Level is not an issue imo as long as it takes a long time, I do not know why people consider Mythic Item level to be something “special” that can only be reserved for people who raid Mythic content seems to be ridiculous. They only keep it that way so the mythic raiders can have something to e-peen about to other people.

People who want to raid mythic not just for the gear will still raid Mythic because its the difficulty of the content they like and not just the gear.

the valor cap is crazy. i cant even upgrade one/week from 1 to 12…

There are several problems existing in the game right now.

  • 200 ilvl wall without upgrades
  • M+ invites start at 206+ if you be lucky to be a meta class 210 if not.
    -CN nhc should drop 207 so you get the chance to be invited to a hc group
  • Valor is capped. Honor is not.

I guess there are simply to much PvE sources they try to balance. I like raiding personally and hate m+ but without it the risk exists that I get benched. I believe they will tackle this with 9.1 and restrict the gear you’ll get to the content you are actually doing.

You get the mounts and cosmetics from story line & renown.

There is no need to buy the ones from vendor

I’m not entirely sure why there are 12 ranks of an item when you wouldn’t be able to upgrade two items, depending on type, from 1-12 by the end of the season

Conquest is season-locked too. Just like valor. And it does require arena rating to upgrade it anywhere past 200 item level.