when will this torture end? this class makes learning other classes impossible as it deletes every rookie players in 3 seconds.
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thats a teething issue with wow as a whole, not just sub rogue. Learning is hard because people who are slightly competent can delete you in seconds.
I see your point. Being slightly competent is not needed when there is a sub rogue against you. Deals too much damage and able to stun lock you or incap you and become immune to damage to deal his damage and can’t be kited is too much. Don’t you think?
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Same with dh and dk against mage. Constant pressure, double dps than me, and lot’s of mobility or 10 pullbacks.
Yes I can also add warrior to that as well.
Melee dps should not have access to multiple stuns and immunities to keep them going. Immunities should come with a penalty such as old divine shield or netherwalk.
Old bladestorm was also perfect that you could disarm to prevent it.
Sub rogues are the most obnoxious, though. Maybe together with havoc and arms.
BM hunter in 2v2’s its just raw, lots of damage continually sustained by pets. Good luck learning anything of worth while of your class vs a bm & any aggro healer
You’re deflecting.
BM, sub, havoc, arms are all ridiculous.
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Not really deflecting, but sure. Just cba with how hyper fixated people are on a select few classes when the whole roster of dps classes are obnoxious to deal with in a arena environment
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Atleast those classes can be controlled in a decent way, good luck controlling a competent sub rogue, never happens
The cds are just back to fast and they can stall the game in their own favor every time, as a holy pala, its alright against them but any other healer, it is a nightmare to face a sub rogue
I still do not get why they have two evasions now
Cloak of shadows should never had a Dodge baked into it and it also removes bleeds and such, same goes for a shield when they vanish or gain stealth
How do you punish them then?
They could just add back blade dance Dodge again, makes as much sense as this
Or how they took the magic dispell away from hunters on feign, why not add craven again then for hunters
These people designing this are just way out there
Yes exactly infinite reset potential is so dumb. Right now sub rogue weaknesses are very very limited. Blizz should provide people a fighting chance against them.
Probably had something to do with the fact when a ret for example was bursting, surrendering just evasion or cloak seperately was never enough, it was give both and you might live or just die.
Kyrian was a must have for sub during SL and it was really good for every spec during the life span of SL due to bleed removal What a shock
if it wasn’t for the fact most rogues play rogue mage, im sure you would see more dwarf rogues if it wasn’t for the fact that using their racial to cleanse debuffs internally puts your trinket on CD for 30 seconds. That and its competing against the god tier racial, shadowmeld.
I am sorry I really tried to visualize how you want to trade defensives against a class on wheelchair. Why do you even want to do that while you may lock him out with sheer number of ccs. Not to mention you have an oh no button of vanish.
My fellah he has 2 charges of horse and most classes cant purge freedom. Most melee can’t get away from ret period, let alone survjve a ret
most of the time your healer or your mage partner will have no trouble on removing freedom.
If it helps, it’s also terrible to play sub against all the rdruid afk comps that infest the ladder, such as ele/arms.
You summoned the rog army they will tell u its skill
And Balance Druids…
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