Not having "overanalytic addons" is the best thing I've seen so far in other games

There is a damage meter. But, it’s third party. You are not allowed to grief others over it though.

You can though …?

I dont get why so many are tryhard as frick in this game, minmaxing & losing their crap over 0.2% dmg increase, but have a hard time paying attention to 3-5 mechanics without addons or look at their actionbar to see cooldowns

In 9.1 and 9.2, raiding without addons is perfectly viable. All bossfights are learnable, they have specific rhythm and good telegraphs. In fact, in 9.2, I had forgotten I had disabled DBM and I didn’t notice for a month, because the fights flowed so well.

The only exception is The Lords of Dread.

If you want to see what actual telegraphing looks like, try FF, it’s got a free trial.

Blizzard lacks this completely. It also suffers terribly if you are on steps or on a slope of any kind.

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Oh, FF is definitely so much better! Many of WoW’s telegraphs don’t bring your attention to themselves at all. A good example is Hungering Destroyer’s energy bar - whenever it fills up he casts Consume if I remember right. But… the energy bar is so small, it doesn’t call any attention to itself, and it’s very easy to miss. I’m sure many people who have killed him didn’t even know his energy bar is a telegraph.

Meanwhile, because of FFXIV’s awesome telegraphs and scripted fights, they can put much, much more spectacle and have amazing boss transitions and screen effects that never get in the way of actually playing the fight. I love how much FFXIV focuses on having spectacle in the bosses! WoW can’t hold a candle to that.

its become so dumb already, enemy cds can track, massive red cross over healers head, ect. I’m not fan of it.

I was very lucky after camping for 2 days to get a pretty home in Gridania a while back :slight_smile:

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Congratulations! My FC had our guild house in the Lavender Beds, easily my favourite housing area!

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In WoW you get a swirlie that barely shows where it ends vs FF14 where you get a circle that is pixel perfect.

To be fair, I didn’t start FF14 for challenging gameplay in a MMO. If I would want that, I would play ESO. Or play one of the Dark Souls games.

There are addons in FFXIV like DPS meter and stuff, all easy to get, they just arent discussed.

I like that you have ended your post in polite, I hope you have good day in Azeroth too!

it is also incomparably easier.

i support making wow a lot easier like FF14 too - i guarantee you that toxicity will dissapear instantly

its not fault of addons - its fault of game being to hard for majority of players

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Probably about raids. But M+, at least up to +15, has basically never been as easy as it is now. You can almost 2 man +15’s. I am also not sure what addons are a must have for +15’s. Outside of personal custom UI changes, which i do understand 100%.

like wow is a hard game lmao. Its a game made for best agers

That’s what etiquette and “behave nicely” community guidelines and rules gets you. Nice, fake smiles - nothing more.

If you want something less toxic the “work that is done” must be of a different nature, and that means changing up the gameplay. Fact.

Agree. Too many addons for everything just make games boring, easy and kinda annoying, because you just have to fit these standards. If they removed such addons exactly telling you what to do, they could create more meaningful fights that could be less complex and the game would be harder anyway. But its not going to happen, so…

Barely shows, is hidden by a myriad of player effects and heaven forbid you’re on steps or a slope :rofl:

god i love statements like this when so many pugs fail to time +15s or disband :slight_smile:

i mean i dont mind a good pissing contest so lets do it - i can bench press 120 kg easily - therefore i should make statements that anyone should be able to do it as easy with “minimum effort”

neither of our statements are true though but we both flexed in different way :slight_smile:

Pugs fail 15s because they do not look at cast bars of mobs. And these are very well telegraphed and not in dbm or something. Has nothing to do with addons.

I am timing 23’s and i have 3 boss-timers enabled in dbm of all the dungeons. That’s it.

I have been literally multiple times asking in this topic for what mechanics people use and need dbm for in 15’s. And till now i got 0 answers. I so guess there is none.