So on my main, i’ve been in the guild for a year. On pretty much every night. GM and 2 officers thought i was new and welcomed me to the guild tonight.
So turns out because i’m not 24/7 chatting on discord and leaving comments in their general and funny sections. 1 year old member is a nobody to you : /
I would have thought they would have noticed the same name come online at least. I do have a microphone but i don’t feel the need to be on voice to do dailies and mount runs : /
How have guilds got this bad , they don’t even know their members are anymore.
How many members are in the guild? Like if the guild only has 10 people that is bad but if it has 100 people then it’s not fair to expect them to know every person in the guild outside the ones who take an active part in a raid/m+ roster and a social platform like discord which people use whilst not playing the game so get to know each other better too.
I think welcoming you to the guild (despite forgetting you) is still better than outright ghosting you and treating like you don’t exist. That is the worst and brings so much more psychological suffering to a person.
same reason i left my guild. Discord buddies get the better treatment. Even if you sign in a for a raid or rated bg the moment the event is planned. someone who is constantly on discord all the time will get in when he decided to join about 10 minutes before the event happens, even lowering the gear requirement for them. all while being called a antisocial prick due to not being in the raids and such xD
might as well stick to just people from a community if guilds are like that, no hard feelings but nothing of importance lost either
I run a large guild, currently over 800 characters in it.
I made this macro to help me keep track of the characters…
Macro name = Fill Blanks
/run for i=1, GetNumGuildMembers() do local c,r,_,_,_,_,n,o=GetGuildRosterInfo(i) if o then if o=="" then GuildRosterSetOfficerNote(i,date("Cpt'sLog:%d.%m.20%y")); end end if n then if n=="" then GuildRosterSetPublicNote(i,""..c.."");end end end
Basically what it does is, it searches the roster for characters that do not have an officer note, &/or a public note. Where there is a note missing it fills the blanks.
So in officer note it will put the date. In public note it puts the Charactername-Servername
It does not overwrite existing notes. I have a different macro for if I ever need to wipe notes clear.
This way I can see when people joined.
There are addons which do a similar thing automatically but when I spoke to the developer of the most popular one, they took offence to my suggestions and banned me from their discord, so I stick to using my macro.
Same for other games to.
I played Return of Reckoning. Guild had like no idea who i was until i went active in discord. I was in the guild for 6 months. And it was still like “who are u again?”
Because i didn’t talk much in voice or wrote in general.
The moment i spoke more and took place in discord, they all knew me and i was a funny guy and a good Chosen Tank.
Got invited to all city sieges.
So it’s not locked to Wow. Many people move the social aspect more towards Discord.
I think it was very much the same before with Vent and Teamspeak.
Its easier to know who someone is if you can put a voice to them i guess.
I will never understand those guilds who get tilted when you’re not on discord 24/7 talking to people on voice, I just want to chill, do m+'s or whatever I dont need to be talking all the time
I honestly hate Discord for doing this. Maybe it was the same with TS before but it was never this bad in my experience. I think that in general, over the recent expansions fewer and fewer people are actually in guilds, and those that are, are interested in either progression or the social side due to being lonely or whatever.
I’m using Discord and other chat apps with my rl friends all the time but I don’t want to make friends with 10-30 new random people I play with in-game. Feels like half of the reason guilds exist today is for people to spam memes and sit on voice talk channels all day.
I don’t need a separate group of friends that I’m never gonna see living half a world away, but it doesn’t mean that guild chats should be barren wastelands and that you can’t have random conversations and bants. It was even much better in Cata with guild perks and cesspool guilds, at least then most of them were actively chatting.
well, discord seems to be the new guild chat tbh. i kind of get where you are coming from but i also cant blame them if you dont participate and socialise and fail to make an effort to integrate.
maybe you need a different guild that suits your needs better, not every guild is the same. my guild uses discord as well and there is no need to be on there 24/7 or constantly talk.
The guild I was in, in wotlk, I got invited to it because one of the officers knew me from raiding with me in TBC and I said I’ll join if my friend can join. My friend later quit the guild because, “nobody invites me to runs or talks to me except you”, well duh, he only ever talked to me except the one time he accidentally pushed his push to talk button on ventrilo. Meanwhile I’m sitting in ventrilo and talking with people when off raiding time, he only logged on to ventrilo when we were raiding.
not being on discord does not mean you don’t socialize. thats what the guild chat is for. As long you are on the voicehcat there during raids and stuff should be enough right?
Bruv
All social communities/groups/guilds etc have their inner circle of social jitterbugs that everything revolves around and anyone outside of it are practically ghosts.
If you’re not super mega ultra social yourself, then you’re gonna be left out.
It is possible to be a part of the circle but it takes a lot of work and energy if you’re not naturally that social.
Even social groups of introverts and loners still have that circle of the most social introverts and loners that everything revolves around.
If you wanna hang with the cool kids you gotta put in the effort. Whether it comes easy for you or not.
That’s your prerogative but it shouldn’t be the default, WoW is not Twitch’s just chatting section. You can communicate with people just fine in-game without it dominating your attention by being on voice chat all day with random people.
People have varying degrees of sociability and there are no rights or wrongs. I have a friend who can’t walk around for 5 minutes without talking to someone on the phone whereas for me, that would be exhausting. The problem is that guilds have almost completely transitioned to that style of socializing, with guild chats and random conversations dying out completely.
what should or shouldnt be enough highly depends on the guild and oneself. if you just want to raid and nothing else then fine, but then dont come complaining if you are not “part of the group” or feel unwelcome if you dont make an effort and socialise outside of raid time.
it also depends on a guild whether guild chat is still used or not.
i was in serveral guilds where ts3 was mandatory for raiding and socialising and you were completely ignored if you tried to communicate in guild chat because simply noone paid attention as everyone was on teamspeak and that was back in wotlk.
the guild chat used to be there for communication but people quickly moved on to third party communication systems which were better and more convenient. it has become more and more prevalent over time.
in my opinion, if the common census for the guilds communication is ts3 or discord then there is nothing wrong with that and if you dont participate you cant really complain and probably need to find a guild that suits your needs better.
Well, if what you’re saying is true, they’re just not paying any attention to their players. My guild has a lot of people who never talk in discord or even the guild chat, but I’ll still recognize their names. Same with our GM, he knows most people in the guild, regardless if they’re in the discord or not.
