I haven’t been using Geforce Experience optimise because I heard it is crap.
My ‘issue’ is the following: I feel like VSYNC gives me a nice picture, and stable FPS, but the input delay is really bothering me. I am using NCP VSYNC on with Triple Buffering, and while the smoothness is lovely, the input lag is really jarring - especially for PVP/M+.
I have toyed around with FPS limiter ingame, but it just gives me lines and chops up the screen frames. I don’t mind not using vsync, and letting my FPS go unlimited, but on occasion, I will see pretty big, seemingly-random drops - especially in M+ when there are loads of effects, or in Arenas! Worth noting that I do not run on ultra or anything: I only show textures as high, and the other 2 settings needed for Mythic+; everything else is either low, or disabled.
If I play without vsync, I sometimes ‘feel’ that, even though my fps shows 80/90/100+, the random drops are noticeable at times, and it just doesn’t feel as smooth. There are also some occasions where random particles (Utgarde Keep dragon boss blue flames) that will bring me sub-60 for a few moments.
All of my drivers are updated, I am using the most recent addons (and only a few, at that). I guess I am just wondering what steps I could take to further optimise my game experience; should I suck up the input lag, or is fast sync a good alternative (though I heard fast sync is only good if you’re consistently running higher FPS than your refresh rate). What sort of graphics should I expect to be able to run comfortably in BGs, Arenas, and Mythic+?
this thread will be interesting. ive got a ryzen 3700x , rx5700xt gaming and a 165mhz gaming monitor. if i run on standard settings ( in the amd software} picture is fine, if i alter the settings and say go to gaming settings wow is blurry and grainy with some quest text borderline unreadable to the point you get a head ache
Is it input lag or server lag? You can disable all VSCYN and just set FPS limit in game - does it change anything? Also you can use a FreeSync/GSync display if tearing is so problematic for you
Typical CPU limit of the game.
You don’t really have to lower everything down. If you aren’t playing 4K the GPU can easily handle the graphics side of the game. What you are facing are CPU bottlenecks of the game, that even top shelf CPUs will face at some framerate.
If you have a 60Hz panel you should never use higher FPS caps - those frames are wasted and can exaggerate any performance spikes. Plus de-synced framerate from refresh rate can also add to the tearing.
The CPU overall can do 60 FPS but in edge case scenarios it will drop. The things you could do:
Use a faster RAM on tighter timings (requires Z-series chipset)
Upgrade to bleeding edge CPU - Zen 3 (or Intel to some extent, desktop Tiger Lake if good) and put an OC on it with fast RAM on tight timings.
As for GPU - for 1080p 60Hz is more than enough I would say. If you want more immersive and fast response experience I would suggest looking at 3440x1440 120-144Hz FreeSync/GSync display and a faster GPU - ultrawide is really good for WoW. 1440p 120-144Hz isn’t bad either.
yup, vsync is not great, neither is 60hz. if you want an actually smooth, responsive experience i’d look into a 144hz gsync/freesync monitor. it’ll feel less like playing by instructing someone else what you want to do and then waiting for them to act, and more like the mouse is an extension of your arm.
you’ll have 2 benefits: high refresh rate and variable refresh rate.
high refresh will make the gaming experience a lot smoother and more responsive once you reach about 80 fps, then on from there. it won’t help you when you’re playing at 60 fps, but it will help you otherwise.
variable refresh rate will give you no tearing (like vsync) and an improved “fluidity” over no sync (i forget if vsync is smooth when you’re locked at 60 but maybe that too), while not adding the input lag of vsync. it does this by matching the monitor’s refresh rate to your current framerate. so if you’re playing at 79 fps, your monitor is running at 79hz at that moment. 53 fps will result in 53hz.
i believe most gaming monitors nowadays support it. it’s hard to recommend one in particular, there’s a lot to monitor purchases.
In WoW you will always have some drops below your target refreshrate, even if it’s only 60hz.
I would recommend a better display though. Like 1440P, 144hz.
Your 2060 can handle it.
Your CPU is also good enough for most situations.
In arena you should get pretty stable 144hz, unless you are using some outdated pvp addons or so.
Weird, what display mode are you using? Fullscreen windowed? DX12?
I haven’t had any tearing in WoW since forever… with vsync off (on a 1080P 60hz back then).
You should limit the FPS to your refreshrate. Big drops in Arenas could be an addon issue like i said above.
I am using both DX12 and fullscreen windowed. I will double check the addons thing, but I am pretty sure they are not at fault (I only use 3 or 4 for PVP, and ensure they are always updated).
I will look at investing in a better display!
Aside: I did some Mythics yesterday and noticed that, even if my FPS was 80/100+, it very often ‘felt’ unsmooth compared to, say, using 60FPS VSYNC; is this unsmoothness because of the monitor I’m using?
Yes
A good monitor is mandatory for smooth gaming experience.
The difference between a simple 1080P/60hz display with a high inputlag and a 144hz display with 1ms is insane.
So I bought a nice 144hz monitor with gsync. Was working amazingly: had gsync on, vsync on, and framerate was amazing. Now, however, I’m getting random black screen moments with gsync turned on while in game…
Yeah, GSYNC on it’s own is all you need, don’t need Vsync on, not needed. GSync is just a much better version of being able to deal with fast changes to monitor refresh rate.
