And where is that written?
And again, everyone and everything is changing. The life, the experiences we go through life is changing us, whether we like it or not.
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The tragedy is, they can never be normal humans indeed, no one is even portraying them like that. But after years of just being treated as outcast and monsters, they are accepting themselves and finally got to a place that they are accepted by others as well. Something they had to fight for, literally for decades. It’s in the lore from Vanilla on.
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That is their fate. It is a curse. And Sylvanas was perfect in leading them this way. I will never accept stupid retcons trying to humanise them since they are NOT normal people.
Now you are just disrespecting lore, the Forsaken itself and demonizing a whole race. Lore that was established in the midway of Warcraft 3 and Vanilla:
‘Yet for Sylvanas and her cursed followers, the Undercity has become a much-needed refuge in a world where her kind is still feared and hunted’
Their fate was never to be treated like monsters, it wasn’t a curse even, it was a forged tragedy they never wanted and asked for. That you don’t read up on lore, doesn’t make it a retcon.
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You can’t think the Forsaken without Sylvanas. She will be back. And i will rub it in your face.
So it shows you also haven’t played the Sylvanas storyline in Dragonflight, where she Sylvanas says this:
Sylvanas: My time to lead may be over, but I will always stand with you against those who would cast you out and call you monsters.
Sylvanas: Under the leadership of the Desolate Council, a new group of voices has arisen to represent all Forsaken.
Sylvanas: Stand proud in the Horde. Know that you all of you were so much more than arrows in my quiver.
Sylvanas: As much as the family I was born into, you will always be my people. And one day, I do hope to walk among you once again.
Even Sylvanas acknowledges the Desolate Council.
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Temporarily. When she returns she will be the questgiver and not Calia and her light and alliance loving nonsense.
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no, since she voluntarily abdicated the throne in favor of the council, no Menethil shall rule allone
Players are supposed to be the heroes, not “Scourge 2.0”, this has been blatantly obvious (To everybody but you, apparently) for literally years, just face it: Calia is here to stay, and the next time the Forsaken have anything to add to the lore, she’ll be there.
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No she won’t. We don’t need a literal human characters whose whole friendship group is alliance leaders.
Naah, I have to disagree here. There are lots of Forsaken NPCs that show that far from all undeads are Crazy and Evil. A lot of them are merely farmers, who’re now forced to live as undeads, but just want to go on with their lives. They’re not fighters or great heroes, they’re scared civilians.
There are also Undead who still fight for the Light and the ideals they believe in in life, such as the Undead who have joined factions like the Argent Dawn.
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Well, you don’t get to decide that (Who’s this “we” you’re talking about, anyway?), Blizz decides that, all you get to do is spam the forums with “Old man yelling at clouds”-threads.
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kill Jastor
As a Forsaken player since Vanilla… I don’t want Calia either.
She’s not Forsaken, she doesn’t understand our blight and what we’ve been through.
When she was first introduced, I was convinced she was going to be used as a way of adding an Undead Allied Race for Alliance. Because like Erevien has pointed out, she doesn’t have much connection to the Horde, which is why Voss is basically being her guide.
But in the end, she will never understand what it means to be Forsaken. Not only did we have to see our lands fall before our very eyes, while miss royalty was nice and safe somewhere. We also had to go through the slavery of the Scourge, helping to destroy our own home and lands. Memories that still linger for a lot of Forsaken.
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The fans do. And they are against Blizzard on this specific take.
Curse? Fate?
In the campaign, it has been said, that Forsaken are just risen from the dead. I’m not very rich in lore of the Forsaken, but it doesn’t seem like they are fated to be that way.
Can you refer me to this part of the lore? Where is it written, that they are fated to be that way? Where is it said, that they are cursed to be that way?
That’s true. But i think she done that just to give people time to accept her and to choose her on their own will, rather than being forced upon by the council.
Most propably she will xd. Get over it.
First of all, she is not a literal human. She is literally undead.
And secondly, you lie time and again. Her friendship are not only ally. Where is that being said? You made that up on spot. The Council has been just created. They just started working as a team. There will be interaction between races of the Horde, with the Council and the Forsaken.
And you forgot to mention, that it was Calia, who helped you guys to get Lordareon back from the plague. She was the one making calls, even through that you guys flamed her, even through that you guys didn’t accepted her, she were there, she accepted your views on her, and despite all that, she was the one who liberated Ruins of Lordareon. Without her, you would be scatered somewhere in the woods, still miserable, with zero dignity.
You quickly forget that huh?
And despite her actions, she does all that for YOUR good. She does that, so that YOU guys can find peace.
And she made clear she do not want the throne. She just want to be with her people, with the Forsaken. Because that’s what she is, Forsaken, she is undead, just like you guys. She has just been raised differently.
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She is not. She acts like a normal human royalty in all her ways. No one asked for this. Blizzard will listen to the Horde community and get her axes soon so we can forget about her. Then her place is taken by the Black Bride and Grand Executor Mortuus instead.
Peak forum interactions. Alliance players telling the Horde what they should like and forbidding making up their own mind. Never change team blue.
She is. And nothing wrong with her proper behavior.
Nah you gotta accept things as they are.
I am not telling anyone what they should do. I am simply telling you what is happening in game.
You are choosing to ignore her good deeds and instead flame her for no reason at all.
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Remember the Gallywix = Bobby Kottick Memes ?
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