True can’t . Have a male leader who isn’t a macho hardass
I hate Gazlowe because he is the exact opposite of every other goblin we ever met before. Not because he doesn’t want war.
Which means he was neutral.
You never had a single argument to disprove anything I say.
BFA build him up.
Yes because all our old characters are gone while those from the alliance are alive. The bias is real you can deny it all you like.
Thats not necessari, since others did, or you haven’t argument eiter- your argument are absurde and dismantled frequently, heck 90% of your arguments are repetition of previous discussions why people got tired of it since you also ignored the arguments if thw other side-like why gallow ia morrh significant as Gallywix.
You mean that one questline which presents him as comic relief
And in exchange alliance lose citys and land
Characters matter more than cities.
Ohhhh.
Shall I remind you:
Mimimi, allaince got arathi
Mimimi alliance won darkshore
Mimimi alliance get a strip a land into hillsbrand
Mimimi alliance get Gilneas back
-erevien ca 2019-21, German Forum
Unlike you I don’t get personal and debate lore instead of insults.
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And 90% if your lore is cherry picking, free fanatsy and headcanon.
We know you, we all know you, you give a crap about lore, only it fits your narrativw, even ut dont, you change it that it fits yous.
Thats why you ignore so many arguments in this “discussion”
Why are you using words you don’t understand meaning of
You said I should stop being ignortant to their writing. My most liked post is me flaming said writing. Just another case of you being wrong.
Maldy did not his power in the same fashion as Gallywix did. Part of the Cartel were against Maldy but not everyone and Gallywix bought them off. Gallywix managed to get the entire cartel against him in cata and not even his money saved him. He also arranged his death after the takeover was done and Maldy was already exiled.
Sylvanas isnt dead. Shes undead. The Kyrian have no claim over her. Also the only one that decides after Sylvanas actually dies is Pelagos and nobody else as only he is allowed to judge the souls and he rejects the maw as a form of punishment.
So you’re saying Horde Bias? Also it is partly his credit, as is Vol’jin. Varian stated this to Vol’Jin after Garrosh was beaten and when Vol’Jin was chosen as the next Warchief.
And Thrall caused the death of more by putting Garrosh in charge. Anduin through inaction. Genn because of rage. Sylvanas because of being evil etc.
Rasthakahn incapability of keeping track on his own people caused the awakening of G’huun and if not for us the Zandalari empire would have become underrot 2.0.
Also you and which army? The rest of the Horde wouldnt march so only the Zandalari themselves would and they would only end up getting smashed without support from the Horde.
He is rejuvenating yes. Doesnt change the fact that hes a loa and immortal as is stated.
Varian died. Far more important than any of the Horde leaders that died. This includes Garrosh and Vol’Jin or Cairne.
As I said above: If they chose Dagran then it would be “horde bias” because Dagran isnt a leader and has no clue how to rule yet alone fight.
None of the Brothers care and wouldnt fight amongst themselves as it would against character. The Wildhammers were not relevant until we asked them. That only leaves the Dark Irons and the Dark Irons are lucky not to have been killed by the Horde or the Alliance.
You mean just like the Horde fleet that is also present?
Also Shadowlands released 4 years ago and we also had a time skip between shadowlands and dragonflight. You do realize that factions do rebuild themselves no? Who am I kidding, evidently you don’t.
The troops of both the Horde and Alliance were depleted after BFA war.
Azeroth has already demonstrated shes not on the side of the Pantheon. She gave the Earthern free will. The “titan races” in the Alliance are all “cursed” by the old gods. Humans are also regarded R-Word malformed children by the Vrykul.
Your taste is not proof. Neither is your delusion.
So every Goblin is supposed to be a comedic relief that serves no real purpose and gets beaten up a patch later. Gotcha.
His “spot on flying war machine” got roflstomped by Gelbin. Gelbin had to be taken down by the Horde Raid.
Varian also is a demi god power wise. He shouldnt have been brought down by mere foot soldier demons. Vol’Jin got cheapshotted and wasnt physically strong in the first place and yet still survived for quite a long time despite the fel weapon he got struck with that should have killed him really quick.
Sylvanas commited treason in Cata by defying a direct order from Garrosh and acting behind his back. If Garrosh would have found out she would have been executed and the Forsaken hunted down. You even see this as both the Horde and Alliance (worgen). Garrosh also openly threatened her even before she committed treason.
Garrosh send her as canon fodder into Gilneas. She wasnt authorized to use the plague but had to use it to secure victory.
Belves and Forsaken also arent buddies. The Belves were thankful for Sylvanas getting them into the Horde but Lorthemar was getting increasingly annoyed by Sylvanas.
When the Forsaken were offering the Belves to help reclaim their lands the Belves were skeptical and remained so even after that was done. During the Siege of the Undercity Lorthemar was reluctant to send troops to reclaim Undercity and only did so after Sylvanas said he would lose Horde and Forsaken support otherwise.
They also used Orcs for big tales.
Emo Boy
Gelbin wasnt fine until he was taken out of stasis with help of the mechagnomes because doing so prior to that would have killed him.
Anduin stated that Jaina was beaten to near death in the Raid to the Alliance players.
He lived on an isolated part of the world and nobody gave a poop about him. He didnt manage to keep track of one his own advisors and nearly caused a war with the Alliance and Horde twice and nearly caused his race to become slug fodder.
The leaders of the horde still sent their troops. Velen refused to do so. Velen has spoken against the faction war.
Gonna be some brew drunk nonsense on the turtle.
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Oh boy. You’re going to hate that patch then.
Basically: They’re not writing them as walking memes anymore.
Was more referring to Dagran being a scholar, not a ruler. He has no experience in governing a nation and hasnt shown interest in doing so either as well as an complete lack of combat experience. He only cares about doing history research.
He would be far better off serving as a councilor giving advise as part of the ruling council (by all means have him replace his mother) since he actually knows how to read.
I mean honestly, we could do with some Alliance slaying.
Just because it creates some inter-faction drama, which honestly the community kindda needs 
Or he’d be a wise ruler who’d be better equipped to lead his people because he understands not only his own people and culture but others as well. Not every racial leader has to be Arnold swartzenegger *1000 macho minus all brains
Anything else but the macho argument that wasnt even brought up in the first place? Where have I said he has to be one? There is a difference between being a garrosh mongo and someone who hasnt seen a single fight and lacks any sort of combat experience (this was even part of his story in TWW. He was so inexperienced he would have gotten himself killed if not for Moira and us).
Hes better off doing what hes good at. Doing history. And we’ve seen what happens if everything is reliant on the word of one person (which is why the warchief system was removed by the Horde). Actually make use of it rather than waste his potential as a scholar.
Nope. Don’t need it. Don’t want it.
My point is more that he’d be a good leader due to his intelligence and wisdom.
I agree on his Intelligence part. Wisdom I’d say he hasnt achieved yet as hes still too green behind his ears for now. And what I said doesnt prevent him from being a good leader. He would simply be a leader within a council. Would also enable him to thrive in his area of expertise rather than being forced into one he wouldnt necessarily excell at.
“Alliance, where you at?”
cheeeeer
“Horde, where you at?”
BOOOOO
OP, you are essentially creating a space where your theory is baked in your axioms.
It is very confortable but it doesn’t make it right.
On one hand you express how the writers are having a heavy alliance bias, and on the other hand you want every horde race to be represented by the biggest stereotype of said race, which ends up by essence in alliance being the good guys and horde being the bad guys.
Gazlowe is a goblin through and through, he ran a cartel making very profitable business with all types of sc*m including pirates, to the point where his town became one of the most important web in all of Kalimdor. Him holding loyalty higher than Gally doesn’t make him not goblin, nor does it says much since anything > 0 could also be 0.001. Goblins are also smart enough to understand the need of someone closer to the horde ideals being in charge because now that they allied with the horde, losing its military power is a highway to alliance colonization, should any conflict arise in the future.
By your own logic, you should also dislike Thrall because he’s not Grom.
Use your brain before bringing up all your so called obvious proofs, because not only does it make you look like a fool, it is also very detrimental to yourself.
It’s ok to escape reality especially in this harsh era …but every time I’m reading name topic. is just one specific Person .
A person with 30k post-topic just in Eu-Us forum… writing the same things over and over (for the last 10 years ) . I don’t wanna criticize or make assumptions .
But this is beyond being addicted …