(OCD Bait) Abandoned Quests Tracking - Why?

I implore any and all players who find this to be an irresistable itch they cannot scratch to let their thoughts be known here.

The Abandoned Quests counter has been in play in the ‘Statistics’ window of the Character Achievements Panel for a considerable time, now.

To my knowledge, I am not aware of any players who find this to be a positive thing - please equally post here if you do find it a good feature, as discussion is always good.

I am however aware of a number of Neurodivergent players (including friends and previous forum threads) who find this to be a painful and stressful feature, in its current state.

:hammer_and_wrench: I posit that this feature should be removed entirely, for the following reasons: :hammer_and_wrench:


It is not working as intended(?):

  • For those who find this to be a positive addition to the game, and enjoy the feature, I have noticed that the game does not accurately track abandoned quests, and / or it is not adequately explained what consitutes “abandoning” a quest. Therefore, those who do like this statistic and are keeping score, are not receiving an accurate result.

Following some trial and error testing, I have noticed that several things seem to “count” as “abandoned” quests through no fault of the player.

  1. Completing a Dragonriding Race, but not beating your previous high score (note: Conversely, resetting the race using the stopwatch item does NOT seem to fail the quest).
  2. Passing through some World Quests while on other business (e.g. flying over it), but not participating in it or completing it.
  3. Being online during a Journal Activity but not reaching 1,000 Activity Points before the monthly reset.
  4. A Patch or Update which affects one or more quests you’ve already completed.
  5. Accepting a Daily or Weekly Quest but not managing to complete it before the Daily / Weekly reset due to other pressing commitments.
  6. Being forced to abandon a quest or reset it, due to a bug. (This outcome would of course be working as intended, but sometimes we are left no choice but to reset the quest.)

I believe it causes more (mental) harm than good:

  • As mentioned, there are many Neurodivergent players in this community who are affected by smaller niggling things, myself included.

  • Having “tainted” statistics that you cannot rectify (either because characters over 60 cannot be permanently deleted, or because you would have to remake a character you’ve put a lot of time into) can be a constant source of irritation; a niggling itch that you simply can’t scratch, but you’re always aware of it.

  • In extreme cases, this can absolutely sour a person’s experience of the game, and negatively impact their investment in it.

  • Other than striving to keep a “perfect” record on your character - which as discussed above, is very difficult with the current state of the counter - I cannot see a positive benefit to tracking your abandoned quests.


TL:DR - I do not see enough of a positive reason for your “Abandoned Quests” statistic to be tracked, and I believe it would be a true Quality of Life improvement for Neurodivergent Players in the community, to either remove this feature or make a provision for the feature to be optionally hidden.

I am not a developer, but I believe that this would not take a great deal of time or effort to do, as the counter is a display / tracking feature, rather than being integral to the functionality of other features.

I believe that the benefits in quality of life would be significant next to the work it might take to remove the feature.


Thoughts?

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I was never even conscious that this existed.

You make a very strong case! :+1:

I hope you get someone in Blizzard to notice.

Do make an in-game Bug Report, referencing this post. At least that way, someone will see it. Devs don’t come here.

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Thank you for your interest and support! And… If this is something that bothers you as well, then I sincerely apologise for drawing your attention to it. :anguished:

Thank you for your recommendation also! I have submitted a Bug Report and Suggestion to this effect also, but my hope is that others might do the same.

Blizzard do seem to take notice of them, but if they’re anything like the places I’ve worked before, they’ll triage developments based on quantity of reports.

If you want to pursue this, you can post in the Bug Report forum of the US forums, which somebody in Blizzard reads.

I see three previous attempts to raise the issue there over the last 5 years

It’s a little effort to do this, but not excessive.

  1. Create a new WoW account within your existing BattleNet account, in the US region. To do this, go to your Account Settings available from your BattleTag at the top of this page, select Games & Subscriptions, and Create New Account in Starter Editions and Public Test Regions. Make sure you choose Americas & Oceania.

  2. You now have a WoW2 (US) Starter Edition account that you can choose instead of your WoW1 (EU) - Dragonflight. Choose it. Start a character, and get it to Level 10, so you can post on the forums.

  3. Go to the Bug Report forum and post.

I’d be willing to repost your post there myself, but would not be informed enough to deal with questions and objections that may come from other players.

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Though I’m not (officially, at least, as I’ve never had it tested) neurodiverse, I do have perfectionist tendencies. So when I found this statistic I stopped abandoning quests as far as is possible (looks at the Headless Horseman when people fail to put out the fires and you have to drop and take the quest again to restart the event).

That the statistic is now tainted with data from World Quests & resets left undone etc, is, for me, somewhat annoying, as I was proud of my record of not abandoning quests (to the extent of finishing every old quest on 20+ max level alts at the start of a new expansion - though not always the quest chain!).

So you are not alone, but I doubt we have the numbers to up the issue in the priority list.
I have, however, found humour is sometimes a way of gaining their attention on a bug report. I can’t remember the particular issue, or the phrase I used, but it was something unique, and used in the bug fix notes, Perhaps this may work?

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Thank you for this suggestion, it’s a very good one and looking at the Blizz Tracker, you seem to be spot on; Somebody (mostly GMs Kaivax, Linxzy and Drahz) does indeed read them.

It wasn’t as much hassle, thanks to the Timerunners being automatically level 10. :love_you_gesture:

I have just copied the post there, it does contain the salient issues that qualify it as a “bug” so hopefully it won’t be moved.

I love this idea, and thank you for your support, unfortunately after wracking my brain I haven’t quite thought of a way to make it “funny”! :anguished:

Though if somebody wittier than I coins a clever one-liner, I can totally edit that in. :grin:

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I’ve only just had my first coffee for the day :slight_smile: I’ll see if anything comes to me later on, as I’m currently thinking along the lines of a reference to Data in Star Trek, as the only thing I can think that rhymes with “statistic” is “ballistic” or “fatalistic”, both having more negative connotations.

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