At the moment it doesn’t seem like it makes much sense to play with any malee character other than shaman. Look at the toolkit, permaslow, randged interrupt, freedom totem, Orc racial +the base totem toolkit wich was already strong.
On top of that they do more damage than any other malee classes, against warriors you don’t even need to kite or be careful/play smart because you simply do more damage from muscle, rouges also cant outdamage a shaman +the orc racial is completly **** them. Paladin is another easy target, purge win, +shaman is tanky enough to not die by single burst like some casters +again ORC racial, almost every HOJ will be resisted.
Shaman now feels like a DK in wrath.
Fudge off, we’re full.
they will be rather strong next phase with the air totem that gives a ton of agi
Maining shaman in sod and i havn’t really had this experience in pvp.
Enhance is ok, and yes it feels alot like dk but not as tanky.
Elemental is a pain with no proper pushback reduction, only pushback reduction is earth shield 30% which is never going to be picked or talent Eye of the Storm which only procs when you’re crit, which is mostly way too late.
Pretty sure the slows has DR in pvp.
Orc racial “Blood Fury” isn’t really good for pvp as it greatly reduces healing received.
Stun resist racial is great though.
Either way, p3 is next week. Things will change.
Yes! ZUG ZUG. The grass is indeed greener on the other side
Who cares about Blood Fury, im talking about the 25% stun resistance.
Yeah i just edited it, it’s indeed very strong in vanilla. But so are stuns.
What does rereoll mean?
Feel like the problem with it is the luck-based aspect for pvp
Horde players dont understand how disgusting is that orc racial. I played a wsg today on my paladin there were 4 shamans in the enemy, im not lying they resisted every single HoJ in that game… They doing far more dmg than a ret paladin for sure, and i have buble once every 5 min.
Any class rn has buttons better than pala buble and less cd timer.
u knew this 20 years ago, and still u make alliance and complaing a bout racials, jokes on you for not getting smarter in your life
Mostly played alliance, and most recently before sod i was playing Human Rogue.
I get it. But i also know rogues have way too many cc’s. I’d say it’s a fair counter to rogues, but having it luck based is not great. For Paladins, well. I feel like Paladins shouldn’t be too reliable on their stun, maybe some pvp rune is missing for their toolkit to balance it out.
Pvp at the moment is just way too bursty sadly, the experience is quite horibble imo and the band-aid increased stamina in bg’s and pvp events is not a good solution. Feel like damage in pvp overall should be reduced, in pvp areas and the world.
Fair point, it is true damage is too high. Im not sure that the bonus stamina will be enough in p3.
As a druid I have the same experience. Don’t matter if I can kite them when they can purge off any hot i cast, and wind shear any heal I try to cast.
Shamans are strong now though? Warlocks getting their felguard in phase3? they have brutal in high armor, at least back in days! Also, wondering how paladins get late at level 60? with 2 handed epic mace rank 14? they were completely unbreakable.
Warlock is another hot take, but no one talking about it. Metamorph is strong alone, but with the 0/24 drain life +instant searing pains its also funny. I mean ok, make locks strong but casters should cast.
OP: i understand the frustration. Playing both sides (obviously more horde lately). Careful though. That would be typical blizz to announce the unavoidable nerf next week a couple of days before p3 starts.
And you know Blizz can only nerf one way. The hard way
Reroll malee shaman, after nerf you can go Ele shaman, after that look around what is killing you most, Reroll to that, keep it up, or you will be left behind. Also do not forget racials, stick to horde.
Gl hf.
Peace.