Opinion: Legion prevents us from getting a new class

I know I personally want a tinker class, and maybe other people want something else added, but the way I see it blizzard kinda blocked that road with Legion.

Considering a new class meaning either creating a new class order and campaign in addition to whatever that expansion would have, or having them being the odd one out.

Sure we already had old zones updated with new content in the past like monk trainers added to starting zones or adding Worgen and Goblin NPCs to the DK starting zone. But it was never done on this scale before.

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Not really, they can just hand you a weapon in a quest and send out you, bypassing a class order entirely. I’m about to hit 110 on my alt just by doing invasions. only legion quest i did was to skip to Dalaran.

It’s a fair point.
Though I’m sure if it was necessary, Blizzard would uhh…find a way.
You could arm-twist the Legion leveling experience a bit for a new class and just direct it through the various zones and the whole Burning Legion invasion. For all intents and purposes, the Order Hall Campaigns are rather isolated storylines.
The new “pick your expansion” leveling layout for Shadowlands also makes it easier to direct players. So if a new class just wouldn’t fit Legion, you could always direct players away from that.

But I’m inclined to say that WoW is fairly saturated as far as classes are concerned anyway. Lore and gameplay-wise there really isn’t much that hasn’t already been explored. So I don’t think Legion Order Halls are something Blizzard are too concerned about the consequences of.

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They’d probably just make the new classes skip legion. Shabby solution but look at bfa.

Just have them as the ‘odd one out’. Class mounts were a legion thing - why would anyone think a new class ‘must’ have an old expac thing built for them?

Edit. Not that I think the game needs any new classes; there are none in RPG lore that aren’t already touched on by current class specs/profs (save the Bard and that ain’t gonna happen).

many people are unhappy with the current class design philosophy, I myself have been unhappy for pretty much the last 6 years.

Maybe Blizzard understood that it is more important to fix the classes we already have first before creating a complete new one.

Especially now we can see that the latest class (DH) has major design problems going into shadowlands (so far) because it was a class designed with pruning a spec specific toolkit and borrowed power systems already in mind, making it different to the other classes.

People who are familiar with the state of alpha classes as of right now know that there is barely anything new other than a few talent swaps coming to the DH class when other classes sometimes get 4-5 active spells back that they lost with WoD/Legion.

I myself hope that they don’t design a new class until they have a solid starting point where they can build on from, It would only create awkward scenarios like for example we have with DH’s now looking at shadowlands.

once they have fixed the foundations of most classes sure why not introduce a new one, but I think they have a long way to go.

They’d surely make them skip Legion so if we were saying a new class was introduced in SL (which I know it isn’t, but humour me) they’d have a starting experience that takes them from say 40-50 in an instanced place and then they’re ready for Shadowlands.

If the class chooses to hang out in Legion content, they get the option to head to Dala but once they talk to matey boi who introduces them to Dala, they just get a prompt to talk to “insert newly created NPC here” who has four quests available, one for each of the zones to set you up. Etc.

I’m still hoping for a tinker-type class although it’s looking less likely as time goes by…i’d even accept it as a reskin of an existing class like druid or whatever.

I thought this too for a bit. But it wouldn’t surprise me if a theoretical newly created class just had the Legion option greyed out when picking an expansion to level through.

Fun police are here.

Good one, officer!

I could see new classes being added without class halls.
One way I can think is progressive addition, no need to travel back in time.

Or my personal favourite: adding a 4th spec to classes, like a shaman tank and stuff like this, it completely avoids the whole class hall debacle :stuck_out_tongue:

Also players always mention balance when it comes to new classes, personally I think it would be cool if we had rock/paper/scissor classes, it somewhat functions that way (not for all classes) now but the class that sits at the top in the rock/paper/scissor system will always have a solid counter class in terms of pvp.

Plus it would feel good to beat classes that directly counter you & provide incentive for teamwork because of it.

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But only druids can have that, and it came at the cost of a 3rd DH spec.
And people wonder why Illidan Hates Malfurion.

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Currently you can skip the Artifact intro quests and level in the Broken Islands without wasting all that time with the order hall, so I don’t see why Legion would stop the Devs from introducing a new class. Said class could still do all the other quests.

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You can chose what expat you level in in shadowlands

You simply don’t give any new class the option of Legion

Like others have said I imagine they would find a fix, a workaround. I don’t even use the artifact on characters I level through there, I just use my heirloom weapons. However I do have to do the starter quest to unlock the order hall.

Not really… heirlooms have been extended to 120, so we have a replacable weapon… the Legendary weapons no longer have any traits assossiated with them. and i dont remember the last time i did the order campaign while levelling through the lands

Also, with SL Revamp we no longer do legion realistically. they can force the new class to go through BFA Levelling into Shadowlands and thats all. Its Workable around realistically.

the fact On record Ion has stated 36 speccs are too many to balance. is Prolly the more likely block of new classes realistically :stuck_out_tongue:

I mean I’d gladly remove everything legion added from the game, except m+ :slight_smile:

The only limit is your imagination, we still don’t have a laser shark class, just saying.

I suppose my point is that whatever new class you propose has to fit into the gameplay format of ranged or melee, tank, dps, or healer. And most playstyle niches are covered by one or multiple specs already.
Plus your imagination is limited by the fact that it has to fit into WoW’s combat design of tab-targeting and hotkey-based abilities. It’s difficult to make laser shark too different from any of the 36 existing specs when fit into the same mould.

You outfit the laser shark to shoot lasers out of various places in its body, it can shoot green lasers to heal, red to tank & blue to dps.
You give it a sharknado ability which combines a whirlwind + laser.
You give it a horn like a killer whale so it can pierce its enemies.
Only race that can play the laser shark class must be a bulky race like a Kul-Tiran, capable of throwing the shark a long distance.
You can attach a chain to the shark to give a YUUGE AoE spanning more area than traditional AoE’s, then u release the shark and as it flies in a straight line it hits all its foes & knocks them back.
You can attach a jet pack to the laser shark and you will one-up the demon hunters

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And then you balance the shark and it becomes similar to any other hybrid class in the game.
Like I said, with the same design mould, you can only produce so many different results before they become too alike.