Opinion on d-evokers

I’m aware of the measure of hype going around the new class and i suppose that’s reasonable given it’s new.

But me, critical as i am, i can only describe it as the most boring class i’ve played in my two decades of WoW up to this moment, so much so it makes me question the developer who designed it, specifically the devastation spec.

The gameplay, damage rotation/output in particular, is so unbearably slow and clunky(despite having good haste) , spells themselves lacking any kind of fluidity. Between spells like Living flame, pyre, disintegrate and empower spells the game play feels like in in some kind of perpetual state of stutter where neither of the spells seem to ‘‘work’’ together, they don’t have that seamless transition other classes have.

The utility spells like hover are decently enjoyable and fun to look at, as is Deep Breath…but the way the spec plays in it’s damage output is incredibly dull, all these long boring living flame casts, a disintegrate or two and an occasional fire breath for a big hit…i was genuinely bored off my butt half way through the starting zone.
Figured talents would perhaps spice things up a little so went through it all…but no, just some more damage and extra procs.

The class genunely feels like some worse version of a beta stage, mid development fire mage, but far clunkier.
Every other class has a veyr active, engaging combat…yet devokers feel like they are trying to do something, but failing, like an old senior who can’t keep up with youngsters, so to speak.

It’s the one class i was hoping to play in DF, but after trying it for a while…i’m just dying from the sheer numbing sensations of playing it.
Real shame too, they have a cool fantasy around em, but that gameplay, ugh…

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I actually really enjoy it.

I think theres abit more to it then you make out.

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Try as i might to find it enticing, spamming living flame 24/7 with disintegrates(or pyres for aoe) here and there…i’m practially falling asleep playing. I simply cannot find that kind of bland, tasteless gameplay engaging no matter how many Hovers the talents give me.
Autoattacking in classic/wrath is more engaging than that.

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You really dont know what you are saying i mean, you are going to see some very very bad evoker mains, the class is easy to pick up but really hard to master. Its in the little details where evoker shines. You really have no clue and no i am maining shadow priest.

If you say the dmg output is dull now i am really convinced you dont know how to play it or what you are doing.

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Devastation revolves almost entirely around 2 buttons in their damage output…excluding fire breath/eternity surge on cooldown. The only thing to ‘‘master’’ is timing on Hovers, that’s it. The gameplay is so dull and un inspiring they make demon hunters look glorious.

Also, funny you mention shadow priests since they have 10 times more active gameplay. ;p Evokers are really slow by comparison.

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It does feel a bit Clunky, I’ll agree with that. Part of that is because I’m still learning it. My spacial awareness is especially off with it. When I’m powering up a spell, I’m concentrating more on the power level of the bar, than the big pool of explosives that has appeared under my character.

I have watched guide videos which have said that the current gameplay is still quite watered down compared to what it will be at level 70.

At the moment, I have no intention to main it. But I will level one up early in the expansion and see how it goes.

It is quite fun at the moment though.

You just dont know how to play evoker i get it, also yes i agree tha shadow priest is somehow more fun because it is. But preservation will be my new alt healer for m+ for sure.

I have no issues with awareness or any of the utility evokers offer, i’m a quick learner. My issue is with the fundamental dps rotation, it’s slow, clunky casts without any sense of fluidity between the few spells devastion evokers have. It’s just very dull to play. Un-engaging, inactive combat style, that is why it bores me like hell…not that i can’t play it.

Just because you dont enjoy the class doesnt make it bad. We all like our own things

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Not really but if you think so the joke is on you.

Yes really. I’ve looked at devastation evokers in depth already and that’s precisely what it is, no nuance besides Hover. I couldn’t care less about the healing spec.

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Considering youve failed to mention snapshotting and pandemics interactions with disintergrate.

Azure strikes on 2+ targets.

Charged blast meaning pyres used in ST enviroments and the amounts based on how many mobs are present.

Shattering star in its burst opener.

Living fires cleave potiental through certain procs.

To name a few off rhe top of my head, id say you prolly havent

I could melt fire mage to looking like a 2 button rotation with a CD if i was to try and make it sound bland.

Or make aff lock sound like a 4 button dot cycle and occassional seed spamming when theres multiple monsters.

It doesnt mean thats all there is too it at all, it just means i dont like the specc so percieve it negatively. Just play another class if ur not interested in it

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Oh no, it is for once not a “spam ADHD-like buttons Demon Hunters” Class.

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It does look as interesting as watching grass grow, I can see this from all the videos about it on YouTube. But I’ll never know tbh as I’ll never touch these abominations so each to their own

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Tbh every class in WoW is like watching grass growing watching, the only time u become invested in watching such is if your intending to learn the said class.

As i say no class will fit all. We all play for different reasons and evoker while sure wont be manys cup of tea its good to exist as a option.

But pretending to know a entire class in less then 24 hours to stack saying hes researched absolutely every interaction the class has to stack and missing several factors doesnt rly fly.

To stack the class is based on level 70 not 60 more then others, as its currently going to feel slower without legendaries or covenant abilities.

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I have looked at the talents in depth and already know the mechanics. Even this particular one, replacing LF with AS, doesn’t make devokers any less of a clunky 2 button spec, so you hit harder with pyre…so what? I would hardly call that an engaging gameplay, if at all, you press one button to modify another.

Assuming you even go down that talent route. So you get a juicy breath/eternity surge…how does that make the gameplay any more engaging/active? It’s still slow and clunky as all hell.

Still slow and clunky, just like everything else.

My issue is not with evoker’s damage potential, never even implied that. My issue is with how the spec works mechanically, the pacing of it…which is awfully slow and basic.

And yet fire mages, and mages in general, have a far more engaging, active gameplay. Devokers are perhaps 30% of that by my estimations.

Sure, if you pretend drain soul, malefic rapture and haunt do not exist.
Comparing warlocks to evokers is laughable, one is actively engaging at a quick pace, while the other is still stuck in a Living Flame cast…or spamming AS in cleave.
Truly the pinnacle of fun gameplay :slight_smile: But hey, eahc to their own.

Worth noting that the Devastation Evoker we got is nothing like how the spec played in early alpha. Blizzard even decided to remove the “Advanced Class” tag Evokers used to have. Because the notion is quite frankly no longer true.

One of their main abilities, Charge Blast, the primary “Empowered Spell” from where the gimmick gets its name from, doesn’t even exist any more. Sure there is now a passive talent called Charge Blast, but it is unrelated to the old ability.

I never got to play around with the class back then, but according to people who did, Devastation only got worse with each update. To the bewilderment of many.

In beta I found it clunky, confusing and squishy. I just didn’t know what I was doing. Having a whale of a time now and definitely not boring.

they do feel pretty glonky and slow to play. My DK and paladin felt way better to play after trying evoker since my abilities happen immediately after i press my buttons. Feels like a great idea from blizzboys, but i’m not changing my gender to a dragon. Even though my chinese zodiac sign is a Dragon since i’m born in year 2000. Don’t need to be an evoker in wow to feel like a dragon :slight_smile: