Orc Druids

[anon22024514]

Why not for Dragonflight?

Rala Wildheart

is a cannonical Orc Druid from WoD, which at the very least suggests that someone aired the thought, internally at Blizz and they liked it enough to put her in the game.

Addressing the counter-argument

Orcs have a very strained history with Night Elves - Yes, but there's also a good amount of Orcs that could easily fit the trope + Tauren as a faction within the Horde oughta know that not all Orcs = a Hellscream archetype. Tauren is every bit as capable of teaching druidism as night elves.

What Orc could be a druid?

How about the majority of the Frostwolf Clan? I'd also put in a vote for the Warsong Clan since it is a clan that embraced savagery for personal gain - An orc of this clan, could be taught to use that savagery for good. The perfect anti-thesis to their clan's history of violence.

Visual suggestions

Moonkin = Saberon - The saberon was originally used for feral as a talent in WoD, but it was kind of a weird look for catform since they were upright. It used the Worgen rig for animations. It would however make a good caster-type and fits the moonkin.

Cat Form = Worg form. We already have a “wolf” cat form in the game - The kul tiran cat form. It only makes sense that Orc would get to be a wolf as their base, cat form. There’s a wolf mob in Stormheim that likewise, utilizes the druid cat rig. It’s right there to be used already.

Bear = A bear with tribal wear, sort of akin to the hidden artifact apperance for the guardian spec.

Why now?

Dragonflight has a theme of primordial life. This is going to be a great expansion, thematically for Druids and Shamans and of course our new primal casters, the dracthyr evokers.

On the alliance side of things, I’d recommend either Worgen or Night Elf shamans, but that’s another topic for another day.

At the end of the day, I just wanna play my favorite race for my favorite class and now’s as good a time as any to request it.

[Skullstalker-argent-dawn]

I feel bad for the night elves stuck with a puffin overweight chicken as Moonkin form… While every race getting their class get epic new forms

[anon22024514]

HUH

Only Zandalari got to have a non-chonky moonkin form?

[anon4433157]

I don’t think it’s going to happen for DF, druids are inherently more work because of their forms, but I believe they should and will give us more druid races eventually. Your suggestions sound very nice. I’d personally love an undead druid, but I know some people mentioned Kul Tirans already have similar forms to what undead could have in a way.

[anon22024514]

Maybe not. I’m certain that the reasoning behind the trinity being opened up for the remainder of races has everything to do with the lack of resources it’d cost to implement.

[Skullstalker-argent-dawn]

Yeah i dont play druid…

But more over the lore reasoning too. Who and where would Orcs learn Druidism from? I don’t know about that Orc from WoD… But I doubt Cenarius would teach the race that murdered him Druidism.

But maybe Orcs could learn from the Zandalari perhaps.

[anon4433157]

I think so too. I also think it’s not hopeless though… They did state their intention to gradually open things up, I’m not sure if Orc would be the first new druid race, my bet would be on human or maybe belf.

[anon22024514]

Cenarius pretty much exclusively teaches Night Elves.
There’s no reason to discredit all the druids out there as a good option for a teacher.

The Zandalari are a weird species of druids. It’s more of an alternate take on druidism, kind of like the Kul Tirans, but Taurens were taught from Cenarius and passed it down to their descendants. Orcs and Tauren have a historically solid relationship.

In fact, I’d go so far as to say that the Zandalari along with the Kul Tirans have put a very weird precedence into the lore status quo for druids. Neither of those guys had anything to do with cenarius and both are unique takes on the art.

In other words, we can actually justify any race acquiring druidism, but believe it or not, I’m more inclined towards the tauren as the sensei/teacher/master, passing the art to a worthy clan of people.

[Barathen-pyrewood-village]

@anon22024514

is a cannonical Orc Druid from WoD

Citation needed.

There has never been mentioned that she is one. She speaks as if she is one, yet, but her name sounds more tauren - which I think is what she was supposed to be.

I do support Orc druid though, as it would easily work with their shamanistic belief (going in a different direction). I do think they should have a WOLF form though, and not a cat form. If there is anyone that should be able to handle the Pack form, it’d be the orcs.

[Someoneelse-xavius (Someoneelse)]

@Barathen-pyrewood-village

I do support Orc druid though, as it would easily work with their shamanistic belief (going in a different direction).

Orc shamanism is related to their ancestors.

Thrall taught us that orcs were violent due to the demon blood but WoD taught us that orc are violent by nature - bloodlust is part of them as anything else.

@Barathen-pyrewood-village

I do think they should have a WOLF form though,

Ie Worgen. They would have to rename most of the spells for feral. Bite I, Bite II up to Bite XIV doesn’t sound appealing.

[Barathen-pyrewood-village]

@Someoneelse-xavius

Ie Worgen.

No, the original pack form was a wolf - the worgen came from using the Scythe.

@Someoneelse-xavius

WoD taught us that orc are violent by nature -

WoD taught us that orcs are as violent as Draenor was - which was very violent indeed, but they were still in balance with the elements.

[anon4433157]

@Barathen-pyrewood-village

I do think they should have a WOLF form though, and not a cat form. If there is anyone that should be able to handle the Pack form, it’d be the orcs.

I think that’s what OP meant

@anon22024514

Cat Form = Worg form. We already have a “wolf” cat form in the game - The kul tiran cat form. It only makes sense that Orc would get to be a wolf as their base, cat form. There’s a wolf mob in Stormheim that likewise, utilizes the druid cat rig. It’s right there to be used already.

[Muslimdwarf-pyrewood-village]

there’s a belf druid in botanica, let’s go

[anon22024514]

@Barathen-pyrewood-village

There has never been mentioned that she is one. She speaks as if she is one, yet, but her name sounds more tauren - which I think is what she was supposed to be.

It’s kind of funny that you’re not willing to entertain the idea that the character is in fact supposed to be a druid because it’s not outright stated by anyone, yet you jump to a conclusion that she’s supposed to be tauren because of her name? There’s also Orcs with japanese names in the game because whoever wrote them in thought the blademaster lore lines up well with your standard issue samurai of old, but does that mean the orc should’ve been a japanese person?

And yes you misunderstood what I wrote, somehow. I agree the Orc cat form should appear wolf-like.

[Barathen-pyrewood-village]

@anon22024514

There’s also Orcs with japanese names in the game because whoever wrote them in thought the blademaster lore lines up well with your standard issue samurai of old, but does that mean the orc should’ve been a japanese person?

Some of the OG ones were named as a reference to characters from the ‘‘Samurai Showdown’’ game. I’d bet that was due to Samwise.

@anon22024514

yet you jump to a conclusion that she’s supposed to be tauren because of her name?

I didnt jump to any conclusion - I’m merely guessing. And I didn’t entertain the idea because you made an assumption that she was - which hasn’t been proven.

I’m still not against Orc druids.

[anon22024514]

what does it serve to point out that it hasn’t been proven? Should we assume she’s a character who can provide info about a treant and how to procede because she’s a shaman with a druidic disposition? It’s just being contrarian. YOu even say you like the idea. I don’t understand the fork in the road approach lmao. I don’t know why the forums are riddled with this attitude. People find a way to disagree, even when they agree.

If it sounds like a duck, walks like a duck etc.

[Lunaera-kazzak]

Perhaps, instead of focusing on giving unique models on NPCs we will never see after 2 years, perhaps they should start investing on player characters?

Heck, we are still wearing 1990s tube dresses/kilts, where your legs disappear inside, where something weird happens when you sit, meanwhile, the NPCs especially the Venthyr are wandering around with the 3D dresses, and the skirts with heels.

The dev said, it takes time to design druid forms, totems, and chargers, oh really? In SL they have literally added NPC creatures of SL as druid forms, they could have added creatures of Azeroth for each race if they wanted to, as for the totems, and the chargers? Oh common…

[anon22024514]

I’m not buying the xx amount of time excuse. They have the money for it. It’s the budget that is cut out, but it doesn’t sound very good to go public with “Kotick don’t allow us to spend more than this”. Hiring another set of hands to crank out some new druid/totem/charger skins is seriously no big deal, especially when we are talking about zero rig-work. Modders do this for fun…

[Lunaera-kazzak]

Also, as for the orc druids, I do completely support this, I support the idea of each race being able to be what they want to be.

I still have not forgiven Blizzard for not giving the Nightborne Druids while we had NPC druids, and even your travel form would turn you into a manasaber cat.

One word, laziness.

[anon22024514]

unfortunately, I agree. Although I doubt it’s laziness. You can find people who do this out of sheer love for the game and its world. Even if we include retopology and rigging as part of the workload, I seriously doubt you can’t find able hands who can churn it out on time for say; Orc Demon Hunters - A combo that would in fact require some rigging due to the proportions having been built around nelf/belf and nothing else.

They can do it. They just aren’t given the resources to actually complete it. Meanwhile we get to be excited over ducks being implemented into the game. Hallelujah?