Is it unreasonable to think of RPing an orc who has some minor sort of Draenei ancestry going on?
Draenei were on Draenor for what, 200-300 years before things went bad and although I know that they more or less kept themselves to themselves I cannot imagine they were completely removed from one another.
The existence of Garona also implies that Orc/Draenei pairings are both able to exist and perfectly able to reproduce.
Would this be something the RP community would accept as a minor character note, or do you think I would be ran out of the city for suggesting such a travesty had occured two generations back?
It’s hardly impossible. Improbable romance, battlefield atrocity, bad weather and a cave to shelter in- Things happen. Depending on the source (Blizz has flip-flopped on this) the Draenei were on Draenor for either around 300 years or 5000+; either is plenty of time for strange incidents to crop up. Lantresor shows us that Orc clans don’t always embrace the products of these unions, but that doesn’t mean one could never find a mate, continue the bloodline and eventually some Orc can say they’re 1/8th Draenei.
Improbable romance, battlefield atrocity, bad weather and a cave to shelter in- Things happen.
According to CHronicles the majority of halfbreeds was the result of the orcs capturing, enslaving and assaulting (GM EDIT) draenei, later the Shadow Council resumed this as a way to create Garona, and maybe even more hybdrids.
That said, Chronicles also stated that most hybrids where considered less than true orcs and the majority of the draenei where appaled by the existence of these hybrids because of how they where created.
There is nothing to indicate that there are draenei/orcs out there who loved eachother and produced such offspring out of love. (Not saying it’s impossible).
I’d say be very -careful- with it. As a few have pointed out, the way in which such parings worked was not usually something you should be exploring in a game, especially one with children playing it.
As Shadowtwill says however, that does not mean that there were no consensual pairings. We don’t hear of any, but if it is biologically possible, then it does not mean it was always a result of atrocity. You’d be rare. Not impossible, but rare as rocking horse poop. Most people who meet you will make assumptions, unpleasant assumptions, about what crime your mother was subjected to, so if that is something you are not comfortable reacting to then I would honestly steer clear of it.
Essentially it would have to crop up eventually, and the thing is, even if -you- are comfortable with it, you have no idea if the other person is.
Lots of people don’t want to talk about Sexual assaults, especially not in -games- and unfortunately an Orc/Draenei pairing does imply that.
I’d say if you went with the idea, think really carefully about how you would explain it to someone in character… Saying “My Father was an Orc and my Mother was a Draenei” instantly could make some people think “I don’t want to carry on having this conversation, I do not like where it is going!” Whereas saying “Many did not approve of my parents. They loved each other, it was mutual, but the difference of race always lay between them” Immediately is less SNIP - GM. And its like “oooh, so they were Draenei and Orc, but they were actually into each other, I’m not getting told some smut horror fetish”
Just think about how you present it. If however your character -is- the offspring of such a crime then they are hardly likely to bang on about it, so it would never really come up in conversation…
I am aware of the sensitive nature of certain bits of lore. I am more thinking in terms of a bit of background detail for a character rather than anything routine, and I wouldn’t go half.
More along the lines of “I look a bit younger than you’d expect an orc to at my age, I think it’s something to do with my grandfather who never gets talked about” and said grandpappy having less beard and more tentaclechin.
From everything I can tell orcs with this kind of parentage look almost indistinguishable from regular ones anyway so I doubt it would ever need to come up.
My only problem with this, besides the obvious possibility of it going very dark. Is the age.
We know that Draenei age very very slowly, Orcs do not.
There are chances that your character would be very long lived and would require a long time to develop.
He’s also no longer canon, so I wouldn’t trust anything involving him.
When something is non-canon it is generally disregarded as the bases for anything.
That is the only visible Draenei part of her yes.
They all did. Orcs reach battle age around 13 or so. So, the Shadow Council warlocks took children and magically aged them by sucking the youth out of them and infusing them with demon blood.
As far as we know, all of the WoW races mature at more or less the same speed. There is a draenei NPC in outland whose alternate universe counterpard in AU Draenor is a child - given the time difference she’d be an adult by thirty.
And elven characters can be very long-lived without a fuss. But I can appreciate where you’re going with that!
Elves age normally until their 18th or 20th I think, it could be the same for Draenei, but in Rise of the Horde (I think) Durotan met some draenei kid twice.
Once as a young kid himself, and once as an strong orcish warrior in his 30s IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.
a product of forced breeding, so her existence indicates nothing beyond a biological compatibility.
she was magically aged by Gul’dan and his warlocks to make her a viable spy and combatant faster. All around, her life was a product of atrocity. No wonder she’s so messed up now.
Med’an is:
non-canon.
he aged weird. He was in his 30s when he acted like a teenager.
That said, you don’t need any particular examples to prove anything regarding half-breeds. They’re physically compatible and they lived near each other for centuries. That’s all you need. No matter how unlikely, these incidents will happen every once in a while. There must be more half-orc/half-draenei like Lantresor.
I don’t necessarily think you should avoid it because your background would involve the word we never mention but it feels less messy to make a human/orc halfbreed from when the orcs where in the interment camps. They weren’t at war right then and maybe one of the guards and one of the orcs actually fell in love.
And as always with any half-breed character, it’s useful to ask yourself why you want to be one as opposed to any of the other two, fully established races. Given the work required, I don’t think being a halfbreed is worth it just to have it as a cool note on your character sheet as opposed to a central and character defining trait.
I understand it. It gives an opportunity to make it easy to stray away from stereotypes and it also gives different paths for development, seeking knowledge of the other race on the other faction for example, maybe pushing the character to become neutral. Or the opposite, it makes him/her want to weigh up for the lacking traits by being over compensative, and maybe you just want to be a little special. Nothing wrong with that as long as it’s done well.
That being said, some of those things could be fulfilled with being born of orc parents from different clans as well but not to the same extent. It would also make the orc less bulky and smaller which might be something appealing to the player (although the comparison Garona-orcs in the Warcraft movie was put on a level of ridiculous and silly)