Felflame & Shadowflame back please! They were freaking amazing.
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Donât forget meta lock back
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9.05 nothing added to destro matters
demo got changes some are good some are bad
devs talked about destruction that they are happy with the state of it atm ⌠which is meeeeeeeeeeh .
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They donât know what it means to play warlock
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Destro got corruption working with the mastery. As we know corruption is our most powerful and useful DoT for Destruction spec, especialy the part where it has cast time and interacts with nothing else and this is essentialy just fixing bug for useless ability.
Demo is basicaly the same case, theyâve just mostly fixed bug that shouldâve been patched before 7.1 already to be fair, and lego changes which well itâs just patchup, it is good for SL but in the long rn it doesnât do anything.
Exactly as Naze said it, they have no idea about warlock at all. I know that it is kind of a symptom of the horrid oversimplified class design in general but warlock struggles even more from it than other classes. But no Blizzard does not ask people who actualy play their spec, instead theyâre gonna do what they think is the best, despite failure after failure to deliver something good to people who are going to play it
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To get blizzâs attention people must cancel their sub en mass, and provide same copy-paste in the âwhy youâre leavingâ box. Blizz listens to numbers, investors, and the big shots.
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I tried dusting off my warlock and do WoW with it my experience:
PVE: Besides raids, the class is TRASH. Utter utter utter trash. It is slow, it has 0 mobility. It brings nothing special to the group. The damage is non-existant in keys under 15 because it needs to ramp up and well noone wants you because youâre a lock.
PVP: Most set up based class ever. All melee classes are faster than you, have double jumps, grips, horrendous slows, better defenses, double charges and many many stupid gap closers. If you get surprised and you donât have a portal or a gate up youâre DEAD! DEAD! You can get interrupted 1000x by all classes. Kicks, stuns and disorientated and if you face a huntard he also feign deaths. So ye⌠good luck getting a cast off.
Pets die even faster than you do, they are soo soo soo worthless.
I mean Shadowlands has to be the dumbest least attractive expansion ever.
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The problem is majority of the community think warlocks is doing fine because the numbers of very high geared players on raids is good âŚ
i got kicked from pvp guild for saying destruction have the worst single damage 2 months ago
i basically dont play the game now . my paladin got geared in less than 3 weeks and my warlock still struggle to get invited to +5 m+ or even raids ⌠i entered this expansion loving it story wise and a lot of things
being warlock as main for 15 years basically killed the experience for me this expansion
my 1st guild i got killed before m+ open for low damage ⌠and none believed me the class is crap at this state till kalamza talked about it 1 month later
i tried to talk to several streamers and no response from them at all .we need 1 damn famous warlock start pitching the problem or we will never reach anything and 0 play time in this expansion
i wont renew my payment since i dont play anymore
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I feel sad for you, I got lucky that a addiction lock with slow legendary is still wanted in rbg. Therefor u can play my class but not my spec⌠my spec doesnât exists anymoreâŚ
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well i hope the forums explode more about the warlock states =/
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I keep pushing it. Canât wait to see the first 9.1 changes
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every time i submit the fact that warlock is not good in pvp, all scream âyou top dps castle, you apeâ or âslow leggo is cancerâ.
I donât want the FOTM class, the best, but i want to play decent my lock demology in pvp. With some tweak an a new talent pvp the spec can be very fun.
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People are somehow still stuck thinking Warlock is actually good as if we were still in BFA and destruction were the only spec
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That will never change, people think warlock is always good. Because the Player base is good.
So iâm throwing my fel cookie in this bonfire. Since the start of this expansion I have grown to hate my main class, one and off since 2007 I have been a warlock main and we have had our ups and downs but this takes the cake.
Since 9.0.5 with the introduction of Valor and KSM being tied to progression on gear I have been shunned from the LFG tool this includes trying to get a group for my own key which usually ends up being trolled and nuked on the last boss.
My former guildies have been endlessly pressuring me to roll afflic and night fae to fit this toxic damn min/max nonsense gripping WoW these past few years and I have been holding out for some sort of redemption for the class.
To name a few things why our class and Destro is unwanted:
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Our Interrupt is still tied to a demon which we are actively penalized by the community if we donât use as we wonât be bringing some utlity to the group, this hurts our DPS by at least 300 dps if we donât have an Imp out.
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Our AoE Stun CD is way too long for the higher meta keys where short CDs for stuns is king, even speccing into the lower CD is still painful versus other classes as this hurts our survival, who have a standard kick and interrupt in their tool kit.
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With the way classes are going i honestly think the shard mechanic for Warlocks needs to be binned off and brought in line like a Mage, Burst DPS, Mobility and useful tools (i.e Timewarp)
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There is no covenant which fits Warlocks and synergizes well with the class, Necrolord as Destro is close but still Decimating Bolt hits like a wet noodle even with 100% buff (best bet is to give us Necrolord pre-nuke in beta)
Warlocks as a class is in serious trouble. The fact Afflic is dominating our class is a warning sign that our class is just not built for this expansion where to be semi viable you need to be a dot class with an insane rotation just to compete with other classes that literally push three to four buttons.
At this point im leveling a Unholy DK where at lvl 50 in the Maw im raking in 6k ST dps and 14.7k dps in aoe.
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They need to take community feed back into consideration regarding pvp top plays play their warlocks after an hour they log out to play an alt because its so frustrating to play because how flawed its desgined dots do no pressure and u need to cast malefic rapture to do dmg but 90% of the game ur kiteing to survive which u cant do any meanigful pressure because u cant cast malefic rapture they need to buff dot dmg reduce malefic rapture dmg guess its awfull and trash design make demon armor baseline remove the stamina buff so it wont effect pve so we can take other pvp talents
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Donât remove the hp buff, Demon Armor of not strong enough to be a talent in the first place. Same ounts for demon skin. They need to give us more talents baseline
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true but taking into consideration how it effects pve with 5% hp inrcrease in reality it has no effect but u know blizzard just a fair trade off atleast
It is fair to give it is as baseline ability, it was one.
They just need to separate pvp from PVE. Demon Armor in PvE is worse than in pvp
What fair trade?
Warlocks lack of spells and passives.
If you look at mages they have 26 spells (active and passive) for arcane, 27 for fire and 26 for frost.
Warlocks have - 13 for affli, 14 for demo and 15 for destro.
We lack of good chunk of baseline spells and effects.
We lack of actives and passives that could forge our design into something more cohesive. Right now we have three barebones specs, that have numbers but not gameplay meat.
This is a huge problem for many different reasons.
First - it is just isnât fair to the warlocks, that we have less spells then other specs.
Second - the lack of spec speciefic spells (active and passive ones) makes zero room for class balaning and tuning, because there is not much you as designer can alter in order to balance things. One move in one direction and class is undertuned pile or tauren crap, one move in the other direction and you have class that would probably have some overtuned ability (Chaosbolt 8.3).
While if blizz wanted to tune fire mages for example, they could toy with several abilities and passives in oder to balance things out. We donât have such luxury.
I wanna see warlocks well designed and balanced, not OP, not broken but balanced, and right now, with all we have it is unwise to take anything from current specs of the warlock.
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