Orgrimmar vs Stormwind vision

Dodging circles all the time :slight_smile:

Not like as a caster we don’t have to move out of these either. The point isn’t that it can be avoided, it’s that it can be controlled.

They do, but ranged also have to move from those. They generally spawn where you are standing, and conal attacks tend to have a long range in front(well, a cone…), so you’ll have to side step those too.

I am not saying it’s easy as melee(heck, I’d be crap as I am generally bad at melee), but try see if you jump when you aren’t hitting any movement keys. The mobs also generally follow you, so I assume that mobs mobs won’t have much more downtime as melee than ranged that way(since ranged often can’t attack when on the mobs anyways).

But yeah, I think an important point is that I do play Balance, and these visions feel perfect for that spec. I probably have an easier time than most.

Druid can cast trees every now and then and stand and nuke for example. Which is much less annoying, when some dwarf is jumping at you. Or as hunter you MD mobs on your pet and keep tunneling (even as survival - where you control it much more). But doing it as frost dk, whose dps is very dependent of standing still during Cds - and that you cannot. In Orgrimmar this wasnt issue, in SW I had to respec one of my dks.

I don’t use trees personally, but yeah, that’s another option for balance.

I didn’t have trees on my druid, but took them for visions, makes it a bit easier… been thinking to try feral instead. :relaxed:

I end up in those circles too, because the mobs that do cast circles around them are pretty much always melee mobs, hence they will be up any ranged’s face too.

Well, you get a head start with doing damage and kill them fast till they reach you and start making circles. Melee doesnt have it. And i might have the healer-problem with keeping stuff too long alive.

I’m hardcapped on coalescing visions. It’s the reason I’m at rank 5 xD never failed a vision, already did +2 at rank 4.

I’m doing all the dailies too.

I guess some do. I don’t think I get much of a head start personally, but I’m not great at these visions yet. I manage them fine, but I am still being very carefull. E.g. I had a co-pilot(my bf…) telling me "You can pull more mobs…) yesterday. Maybe I could have, but I didn’t dare risking it. I also tend to stand in between the mobs when I AoE them, just to make sure I got all insde my AoE. Otherwise I’d be managing casters and melee seperately, which feels a bit pointless(I don’t kill them before they reach me, unless I knock them back, which I need them in my face for). I could also Wild Charge them(Moonkin form = jump backwards), but not really found a good moment to use that, as more beneficial.

I have still not reached the point where these visions are troubblesome, but I guess I have to rework how I do things once I start going up in difficulty.

You cant be hardcapped at rank 5 tho. Considering the hard cap is rank 9 atm. And from 8 to 9 you are forced to clear two horrific visions as a full clear is not able to bypass it anymore.

It is not troublesome to us either. We easy upgrade our cloaks, of course :slight_smile: But it is also far from a full clear :smile:

Political correctness is crap, kick the alliance dev from the decision making team.

I cannot gain more coalescing visions to increase my cloak rank, this is the hard cap I’m talking about.

It’s why I said if you lose or miss a vision you’re gonna be behind.

If you make up for it next week, you made up for it and are not behind anymore, but until that time you still were behind everyone who didn’t miss or fail their vision.

No, but as I said, I would probably be terrible as melee in there.

My point is mostly that I think it is worth looking at how the mechanics actually works, and how to make it least troubblesome for whatever spec one plays.

E.g. I just don’t think the fire jump happens unless you hit a movement key, and how much is it necessary to move, even as melee? Just looking at the mechanics in there I don’t think melee necessarily get much more downtime than ranged, but usually the ranged/melee discussions can go own forever :smiley: (I’m a ranged person who lives with a melee person…) I’d say we’re more even than ever on annoyances, and I do play melee too, I am just generally bad at it due to lack of practice in more punishing content.

Ohhh.

They really should have named the currency differently.

But yes, you are max 1 week behind (skipping an entire vision is quite hard tho considering its up for 1 week and 3.5 days twice a week respectively). Compare that to how it was before it went live with if you failed a vision you actually being permanently behind until rank 15. And them buffing the heck out of dailies is also quite nice for it.

Alas you get another vision at 8pm.

I have to admit I to find the stormwind vision harder then the orgrimmar one the mechanics are awful. They should of been balanced better imho. However I personally see the stormwind vision as a group session and orgrimmar as a solo one. But if you don’t like doing one just hold on to your vessels until the one your prefer rolls over.

But I think the catchup system should be changed also and the requirements to catch up halfed.

I skipped last week’s Orgrimmar. I just didn’t have time or energy for it. I got a few dailies done and a mythic + 1 raid night, but besides that the vision just had to be left on the shelf until yesterday. I am still rank 9 though, as it comes more down to the amount of gathered vessels rather than a week or two missed. Obviously vessels requires you to do the dailies, but even I who has lost a bunch of dailies, had 5 vessels in my bag when I started yesterday, + spare coalecent visions.

But yeah, there is some room to miss out and fail, but I think you must have done very little of the content/failed a lot to be behind at this point. I am currently trying to get my priest there, and she might be tight on it. I’ve failed two early visions, but I am now at rank 5 with 2 spare vessels. I’ve fixed my gear so hopes of success are bigger(it really hurt having bad gear it seems). Rank 5 was a walk in the park in comparison to rank 2 and 3 in Orgrimmar in my case, on my priest.

Curious how far behind she’ll land. Currently got two vessels as mentioned, and she is rank 5.

I feel stormwind alot easier then orgrimmar, just did full clear 1 mask solo without a problem.

That explains why you love it then… -.- Try being a melee or a caster that needs to cast a lot.

You’re a DK though, should be a breeze.

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