Outlaw Rogues

[Turnon-burning-legion (Turnon)]

@Scandals-twilights-hammer

personal resource was driving me mad at the beginning of the expansion
sometime you see empty combo points while in fact you’re capped
sometimes you see full combo points while you have just 1
sometimes it goes nuts and shows you missing combo points in the middle

ohhhh yes, this one bug drove me insane
i think its still not fixed but dunno for sure since i ditched pirate

allso bug where grapling hook taking you out of stealth
(fixed since 2 weeks)

[Scandals-twilights-hammer]

i leveled up my rogue in prepatch by the way
and the bug was there since then

take your time blizzard entertainment…

[Turnon-burning-legion (Turnon)]

dude the whole UI is messed up since pre-patch
you dont know wich addon you can use so it wont brick your game
and i use really not much addons

[Cystem-frostmane]

@Kretías-tarren-mill

@Scandals-twilights-hammer

Did they fix the personal resource display combo points bug

Actually i just remembered that i’m using a weakaura that fixes it
I still see the blizzard personal resource but a weakaura replaces the combo points due to the bug it has…

No idea. Just know that i currently dont have the CP display error or it refreshes so fast that i dont recognize it.

@Cystem-frostmane

How does opportunity procc and can do I just wait for the that buff to use the pistol-shot procc?

Opportunity procs from sinister strike and ambush (if specced into HO). Which is what im talking about when i speak about fan the hammer since fan the hammer is the talented version of it which will always give you 3 procs of opportunity instead of just 1. And yes you wait until you get said proc before you use pistol shot. It procs often enough so greenskin running out is more than unlikely and it also saves you a lot of globals/energy.

https://imgur.com/JZzIxMZ

This is my DPS with cleave dummies. I know I’m never going to be hitting 5 enemies for that long period of time but I should be getting at least half that damage in any given Mythic run.

What wago you recommend to clearly see the opportunity/GSW buffs?

[Scandals-twilights-hammer]

to me it looks like you’re overcapping combo points
I wonder how Ambush is your number 2 even without the 2 set
usually for Dispatch is number 2 after pistol for me (but i have the 4 set)

it’s a bit hard to tell, since the damage profile will change with 4 set

my advice to you is to get the 4 set ASAP
also farm the whetstone trinket from court of stars and replace your second trinket, you’ll be using it pretty much on cooldown.

[Kretías-tarren-mill]

@Scandals-twilights-hammer

I wonder how Ambush is your number 2

Thats perfectly normal. Just look at council kills past the last wednsday where youre perma hitting 4 targets. Ambush being on top is nothing out of the ordinary. Plus the amount of dispatches you do has gone down after the nerf.

@Cystem-frostmane

https://imgur.com/JZzIxMZ

This is my DPS with cleave dummies. I know I’m never going to be hitting 5 enemies for that long period of time but I should be getting at least half that damage in any given Mythic run.

I need a log to look into. Just looking at your damage meter breakdown leaves way too much room for interpretation.

@Cystem-frostmane

What wago you recommend to clearly see the opportunity/GSW buffs?

You can ignore Greenskin. Its not the buff youre looking for as otherwise you could just hit the button whenever it flashes.

https://wago.io/ByzCxPq-m/

However there are several packs you can choose from. Just grabbing some WA and calling it a day will only get you so far. Look at several WA/Addons and combine them to fit your need.

Even the pack i linked while being widely used i merely took the Fan and BTE tracker out of it and ditched the rest.

[Zambiealex-doomhammer]

I have two builds, Echoing GSW and some strange stealth dance sepsis build I am playing around with.

[Scandals-twilights-hammer]

actually that’s true
i’m still used to pre nerf numbers

[Cystem-frostmane]

@Scandals-twilights-hammer

to me it looks like you’re overcapping combo points
I wonder how Ambush is your number 2 even without the 2 set
usually for Dispatch is number 2 after pistol for me (but i have the 4 set)

it’s a bit hard to tell, since the damage profile will change with 4 set

my advice to you is to get the 4 set ASAP
also farm the whetstone trinket from court of stars and replace your second trinket, you’ll be using it pretty much on cooldown.

Could be.

When I ambush or pistol procc it can go straight to 7, it’s often hard to figure out how many combo points i am getting per skill.

@Kretías-tarren-mill

@Scandals-twilights-hammer

I wonder how Ambush is your number 2

Thats perfectly normal. Just look at council kills past the last wednsday where youre perma hitting 4 targets. Ambush being on top is nothing out of the ordinary. Plus the amount of dispatches you do has gone down after the nerf.

@Cystem-frostmane

https://imgur.com/JZzIxMZ

This is my DPS with cleave dummies. I know I’m never going to be hitting 5 enemies for that long period of time but I should be getting at least half that damage in any given Mythic run.

I need a log to look into. Just looking at your damage meter breakdown leaves way too much room for interpretation.

@Cystem-frostmane

What wago you recommend to clearly see the opportunity/GSW buffs?

You can ignore Greenskin. Its not the buff youre looking for as otherwise you could just hit the button whenever it flashes.

https://wago.io/ByzCxPq-m/

However there are several packs you can choose from. Just grabbing some WA and calling it a day will only get you so far. Look at several WA/Addons and combine them to fit your need.

Even the pack i linked while being widely used i merely took the Fan and BTE tracker out of it and ditched the rest.

Best way to record logs?

[Kretías-tarren-mill]

@Cystem-frostmane

Best way to record logs?

Warcraftlogs. They have an explanation on how to set it up.

[Moistmeatbal-frostmane (Moistmeatbal)]

Outlaw is a methhead specc, if you like spamming skills every gcd and tracking buffs it’s a great specc for you.

I’m enjoying sub a lot more.

[Chadsworth-turalyon]

I can’t talk for pve, but in pvp they feel like garbage, especially when I’m facing so many warriors. While they get buffs, Outlaw gets nerfs and our weapons already tickle their armor. It feels like a high APM, advanced spec but without the reward. It’s no wonder everyone plays assas or sub in pvp.
Since the FtH nerf I ended up dropping blade rush (nice mobility and energy regen) for sepsis just so I could squeeze out some more ambushes to fill my CPs.
FtH nerfing was completely uncalled for. It’s not just a DPS loss, but an energy nerf as well which we definitely did not need.
So now, not only do I need to track all my previous buffs and cooldowns, but I need to rotate sepsis in there after pistol shot proc if my CPs aren’t full just to get an ambush off. Outlaw is getting harder to play and with no payoff.

Still, I can’t play anything else. Despite its obvious shortcomings, it’s still the most fun playstyle imho.

[Caylía-draenor]

I’m not satisfied with my rogue’s DPS though I think is cause by low ilvl and obvious mistakes; I’m quite new to the spec but, personally, it’s the most fun DPS spec I have played in a while.