I read from icy veins guide that you should generally speaking keep rerolling unless you get either two buffs OR either ruthless precision or grand melee.
Is this really the case?
Sometimes I keep rolling and rolling and any of these conditions dont seem to be met. It feels like waste. Have i understood it wrong?
If yes and/or icy veins guide is bull excrement, then how should roll the bones be used?
Depends on the build you’re running etc. If I’m not mistaken the be all, end all build for outlaw currently is running as many ace in the sleeve’s possible with deeper strategem and rolling for deadly precision/grand melee
I don’t do much of higher end content with the said rogue so its talented more towards solo content.
My rogue talents should atm be 211132. So vigor instead of deeper stratagem. As for azerites, I think I have at least one ace in the sleeve. Possibly two.
I wasn’t also really asking for min max reasons, but rather to play “right”.
Now, let me preface this by saying I’m not the greatest Rogue player; this character is an alt that I mainly do M+ with friends with.
I’ve based my information both on guides and things I’ve heard streamers doing high-end content say.
In general for single-target, I roll until I either get Ruthless Precision, Grand Melee, or any two or more.
For AoE I roll until I get either Ruthless Precision, Grand Melee, Broadside or a pair of two others NOT including Skulls and Crossbones. Icy Veins actually argues that the value of Grand Melee is lower with the Stratagem +3x Ace Up Your Sleeve build that I use and that may be true in terms of DPS, but I really like the self-healing of it in M+ (especially during AoE.)
However when I have Blade Flurry up I’ll settle for any single buff except for Skulls and Crossbones so as to not waste Blade Flurry damage by using CP to roll during it. If the AoE is short-lived (or requires immediate burst/damage) I just won’t roll and make full use of Blade Flurry even.
Personally, because I run with the Ace Up Your Sleeve trait (3x even), I tend to use Between the Eyes when it is available before rolling, since it can give you the free CP to roll afterwards (and immediately reduce the CD of Between the Eyes.) I’m not sure if this is the best practice, but it feels as if it’s working well for me.
My greatest annoyance here is that, if I start to fish for those specific buffs sometimes I will be rolling and rolling and rolling until mob or boss is already half dead. I have wasted cooldowns and potential time to use cooldowns to roll repeatedly.
On average it should be good choice, but when rng is against you, I’m certain its huge huge dps loss.
Replace it with Slice and Dice and then you always get Grand Melee.
Problem solved.
Sadly that is the nature of the spec: RNG can gut your DPS. Ideally you’d try to minimise this by having a good roll up before activating major CDs. If doing damage now is important, you can always, in short fights (in dungeon for example), settle for simply any one buff and just roll with it (pun intended) for the time being, making sure to stack CP at the end when everything dies to get a roll for the next pack/boss.
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