Overwhelming RNG ruining the game

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Played from day one of vanilla, took a break for few years, War Within Warbands brought me back. My experience initially was superb, as good as any expansion we ever had, the story, the game play, slight graphics updates all superb.

After re-levelling all my old original alts I was that impressed I levelled any class id missed while I had been AFK , leaving me with 16 lev 80’s consolidated onto 1 account from my old accounts.

Initial progression and levelling was fine, low lev none PVP seems to have been destroyed due endless full premade trolling the BGS and Epic BGS, but there were delves which were great to re-learn all those classes.

But then the issue starts, everything and I mean everything in the game now revolves around RNG, even new talents may or may not proc lol. RNG has a place in this or any game, random world drops etc. But when every single step forward is out of your control its to much, we all pay the same sub, the 10% super elite Myth 20 guys and gals, the Raiders, and the folk who have had really bad experiences in the Raids and Myth so they choose to Delve. No one pays any more or less, every single player deserves to have their investment, both cash and more importantly precious time, mean something.

We all deserve to see our time spent slowly progressing our Alt armies, but that is simply not the case, Delve rewards, RNG same items again and again and again, Bountiful delves same story, Great vault, same story, week after week after week some characters. some players get nothing while others move forward. That’s simply not acceptable, your progression should not be solely based on luck, not in a game were progression is EVERYTHING.

We need a new token in the GV and Delves, maybe even raids and Myth that if nothing else you can grind them out , hand them in and at least know your time meant something.

As for me, the RNG as ruined any pleasure I had, I keep coming back, running another 6 or 10 delves, maxed out all reps including Nightfall, Brann 80, but I think its time to call it a day. I dont mind putting in the grind, I just need to know there is a goal. I Actually dread the delve chest and vault day, and I mean dread them and thas not a good thing

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I really don’t experience the current game as having ‘overwhelming RNG’ in the slightest.
That doesn’t mean your feelings aren’t legit; you feel what you feel.
But… I just don’t see it, honestly.

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So whats actually changed other than your attitude to this?

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I’ve raided for almost 2 months in Classic Anniversary and won a staggering amount of 0 items as a Holy Paladin, was still full pre raid bis blue when BWL launched. That was the point when I quit that.
Retail is has still RNG involved but at least has some “countermeasures” in place.

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Did you use all avenues to get gear like renown rewards, crafted gear, BoE gear on AH, Warbound gear etc
By now, in season 2, you should have 5 crafted gear slots and one 658 ring from Siren Isle.

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Firstly, ty for your suggestions I appreciate what your saying, I’m aware there are other avenues to help bypass the endless repeated items you get from the vault and delves, I have levelled my BS and Inscription to provide the 658 weps using the crests, I have ground out conquest to fill out some missing Champ spots, used the Arathi event to fill out more, all 16 alts are around 650, and that’s great , my point isn’t that its impossible to find ways around the key equipment reward mechanic in the game, my point is that the reward mechanic isn’t fit for purpose, no player should ever be left feeling like they wasted 40 hours game time in a week, and that is what happens all to often, a token to save allowing you to then grind out say 4 ( a months vaults ) would at least let a player feel there was a goal in sight,

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Im also delve only player and I think gearing is too easy and too fast.
Delve loot and Vault are just generous and rewarding for what it takes, no matter rng.
If Vault loot isnt good, take token instead and buy half spark for crafting.

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I think the problem is the bloated loot table. To get a weapon is a pain in the back(no, not the back and not just weapons).
I had weeks in wich 5 out of 7 slots contained a trinket(from the start of the xpac most of the times). I have sold soooo many of them.
Weapons, or other slots in general rarely pop up, ofhands are even worse.
And if its a weapon, it for sure is a staff when you play resto shaman…

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Are you saying that the game rewards, Vault, Raid, Delves, Myth are not RNG in nature ?

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I’m saying it’s not overwhelming. To me anyway.
But I’m not fanatic when it comes to my gear (anymore).

This week I didn’t even max out my vault. Because I didn’t feel like doing stuff.
I’ll be fine.

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Hi Pounder, I wouldn’t say “to easy” as you have very lil to no control over your rewards, you can only really get 1 649 item per toon each week from the bounty map, and 1 from the vault and there is a very high chance it will be a duplicate slot to one you already have, as a BM hunter, Prot warrior, blood DK , you may find delves a lil easier than some and of course it may just be down to your experience and skill with your toons, tier 11 delves are a challenge for a lot of classes and a lot of players