Paladin for All. Wishlist Megapost

I made mine back in Legion after the quest. Just waiting for the class to drop. I even keep a spare paladin levelled to max ready.

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Waiting to use a boost here, reserved a couple names…

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The last thing we need, especially in RP, is more paladins…

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Some of these concepts sound nice, Blizzard will not bother tho. They will open the class to all at once and will not elaborate further, they have done it with the previous classes already. They did got backlash for Orc priest and improved the thing a bit but they haven’t elaborated at all at LFD lock. They do not care. The least we can hope is for them to explain the undead and void elves and their combating the pain (I have no hope, I think Blizzard forgot it’s a thing), the rest will be humanified. Class will be opened to them with no lore behind it. I can only hope I will be proven wrong but I don’t think so.

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If the class is opened with no lore behind it, that is actually at this point the better outcome tbh. If they don’t elaborate and just put the paladins in the game, we as players can at least play the theory/headcanon game.

The worse prospect is us getting such through Tyr and Tyr’s Guard exclusively, which gives it a specific lore - an extremely Alliance, human-centric lore. And I really hope it doesn’t come to that.

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You have a point, be ready for the worst.

It could be argued that Paladin Lore is Tyr centric over Human centric who adopted the Tyr’s Guard concept.

It’s the way humans do it, other races have different apprach to the Light and it should be seen in the lore. The new races should get a paladin order which will fit their culture.

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I agree and I’m on board with that wholeheartedly but I just want people to understand that there is a seperation between the Tyr’s Guard & the Silver Hand in the lore.

Until we know more no one can definitively say what is to come but with the Silver Hand being an Alliance lore centerpiece I sincerely doubt you’ll have a copy cat with a reformed Tyr’s Guard.

Correct me if I’m being a silly bun but as I recall the humans, unbeknownst to them, received the Light from the Naaru. Now, we do know that when a Naaru is injured their powers slowly fall to the void, becoming a Void God until they are reborn. In doing so, they are known to attract the spirits of all manners such as in Oshu’gun and Auchidon. Thereby the very source of of power for many (not all, such as the potential Night elves and Tauren) paladins derives from a creature that swings both ways. We ought to be keenly aware of the duality of priests and their Light/Shadow powers, I’ll add.

In this essay I’ll be talking about dark paladins and whey they should be a thing

They didn’t. The only thing that was related to a naaru was the core to the Ashbringer.

They did, the first human priests got her visions from a chandelier iirc.

When the war ended, Mereldar dedicated her life to caring for humanity’s wounded veterans. It was she who first spoke to other humans about visions of the Light. In her dreams, Mereldar saw five strange forms not human, thrumming with holy power. They filled her mind with the wisdom of holiness, protection, justice, retribution, and compassion. When she put their wordless teachings into practice, power seemed to flow through her. The patients under her care would see their wounds disappear and their illnesses vanish.

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Church_of_the_Holy_Light

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Chronicles and its consequences have been a disaster for the mysticism, religion, intrigue and purpose of this entire setting.

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They were first exposed to the Holy Light as it became to be known in the Church of the Holy Light through the Naaru, but just as humans had both druids and shamans before, they might well have wielded the Light without recognising it as such. But that’s just a theory.

They might have been taught of the Light by the Naaru, but the Naaru are not the source of their power. The Naaru in the mythos of the Church would probably be akin to angels if even that.

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This. Mereldar being exposed to the Light by the Naaru is where their involvement ends.

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If I also remember rightly they were still using Runic magic back then too which is why we see Holy Runes in the Tomb of the Lightbringer.

Runes in general are used everywhere in Warcraft. The last depiction of Common in proper HD we’ve seen (Lion’s Rest’s Memorial to be specific) uses Futhark runes, there are death magic runes, arcane magic runes…

It’s just a cool looking type of alphabet to use for magic in a fantasy setting.

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The fact, that the Church of the holy light got their knowledge of the light from a Naaru vision, is the basis of my theory as to why the holy orders at their core are the same.

The Naaru taught the Eradar and the Humans how to access the light. and they did so through showing them the core tenants of the light. what one must do and how one must act to harness the light. Knowing that the Humans just got their instructions through a vision means that the way they practice the light is the Baseline of all light faith.

The three virtues of the Church of the holy light, aren’t just what humans practice.
following these virtues is as core to wielding the light as using one’s own spirit is to commune with the elements.

Of course every order of paladin we have right now have their own cultural identity, but Tenacity, Compassion and Respect ring true in all of them. And just writing it off as it being a Human thing does a great disservice to the lore around the light.

an example: Tauren wield the elements like Orcs do, like Dreanei do, like dwarves do. Tauren and Orcs have found the way to commune with the elements. Dreanei and dwarves use the exact same means. saying that only Tauren and Orcs use this way because only their way has been documented in lore is not helping anyone here. The same goes for how people wield the light.

There is a core principle to wielding any form of magic. For the light it is following the three Virtues. for Shamanism it is using spirit to commune with the elements. for arcane it is harassing mana and studying runes. and i can go on.

The Tyr’s guard is quite blunt with this as well. showing that each of the paladin embodied a core tenant/virtue. that all paladin should strive to embody. Tauren and Zandalari just have a cultural sauce added to it is all.

And any non Tyr’s guard paladin should have their own sauce.
I do not like that all future paladin will just be Tyr’s guard. but I do like them as a possible option for the harder to pin down races, like Gnomes and Goblin for example.

You’re right. Dwarves, high elves, some gnomes and blood elves do it too.

But following those virtues being a core to wielding the Light? Allow me to introduce you to the Scarlet Crusade.

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Before the Storm directly spells out that the Light is not tied to the Church’s tenets, and that it’s accessible through any cultural hero, myth, teaching or code that inspires you to act better in the belief that you’re doing good upon the world. The book drives in that different cultures do not wield the Light the same way as the Church.

A character can literally worship Uther in the belief that Uther is the paragon that all mankind should strive to be, and through living in his example the Light comes to you.

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