Paladin is more than fine in PVE

Phase 3! Woooo!

Paladin is looking amazing!

Consecration critting?! It being affected by Melee + your spell crit? Man thats 35% spell Crit for me boys and we have divine storm! We are eating so well for dungeons it is insane.

I know what the main complaint is from paladins is not having good sustained DPS (solo) and the burst DPS we have is very gear reliant but with the new runes we are going to be fine.

We’ve always wanted an inquisitor-type class and we’ve got it with phase 3, truely. I did as most paladins wish that we got dual-wield but it’s not going to happen let’s be honest.

Tanks, Pretty much the same. No runes but our threat gen is so good that the only one we need is blessing of sanc to be more tanky (not like we already are)

Healers. From the leaked runes you’ll still be playing wacko-mole but you’ll be healing so quickly with rank 1 flash heal you’ll still be solo-healing raids.

But blizzard, PLEASE MAKE IT SO CONSECRATION HEALS FOR HOLY. It’s all they need to help sustain in between Holy Lights.

This is a Paladin appreciation post. Only class you need, gonna be 20-manning Sunken Temple all Paladins!

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B-b-b-but shamans

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Exorcism goes brrr

Seen that 50% cooldown reduction rune on exorcism? HOLY MOLY

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Wow, this is actually really good suggestion
+1 from me

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Ye if it did happen, I’d actually run a Holy paladin as OS.
Something I thought i’d never say in my life

More than fine? LoL. Stop fueling the shockadin hype. I want to play a decent STR based melee paladin with good damage. If I wanted to play spell caster with holy power I would play priest.

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Paladins without tears flowing down their cheeks?

Now I’ve seen everything

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Sounds like you want to play Warrior.

Legit the current meta is STR+AGI because of the sheath of light rune and it’ll be the same cause of the consecration rune

Yeah I want to play warrior because paladin is a warrior with some limited spell abilities.

paladins in bubble killing people without counter, and now they get more increased range holy damage free to use in bubble, SoD is a sheetshow

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Congrats on repeating 1 thing everyone says.

Im sure the thing we can only do every 5 minutes will destroy the balance of the game

Once I will remind you, bubble has 5 mins cooldown and paladins are not dealing lots of damage like broken shamans. Guess we need Blizzard to send a blue post about this.

Rets will be just fine.

“Just fine” = worse DPS than a tank spec. It is fun to see horde players (fake) comforting us. Yeah buddy, paladins are fine, they need to buff poor shaman more to close its gap with unbalanced superior paladin.

Well as a ret you will get a 10% more str and 15% more dmg for Martyrdom from talents. Runes will help as well as the sets this phase. More crits= more exo. Ret single target will be really strong. AOE and survivability is not good apart of the bubble, but thats it.

“Just fine” = worse DPS than a tank spec. - Shamans will not be able to DW tanking in p3 as WoE requires a shield, so dont have to worry about that.

Shamans will be most probably better then paladins in everying apart of bubble and stunt :slight_smile:

The sad part is you need pumler if you want to go SoM and you havent got it you are stuck to run SoC. 1 weapond cant define a class.
For me i havent even seen the pumler drop and i have done all runs but the first lockout.

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Kitte them. They have no gap closer and no slow.

Or L2P. Both work.

That’s the problem :smiley: Paladins are assumed to be counterpart of shamans but in practice shamans are way beyond the paladin.

Yeah. It does seem like our class will be Cleave focused. Hopefully we see some single target DPS melee runes and abilities but when we have exorcist and hammer of wrath rune (reduction in cd and hit anything).

There is an easy fix, you have a dual wield/2h specialisation in the belt slot. For example for the 2H specialisation, when you have a “Slow” weapon, classed as a weapon with a 3s+ swing timer). You get base damage buff for every 0.1,0.2,0.5s,1s (what ever scale), and it scales up so a 3s weapon could get a 10% buff and when you get a 4s weapon it’s a 100% buff. Obviously it’s just an idea and i don’t expect that to actually happen, or you could have it so it has a chance to proc x amount of attacks and those procs can proc of itself (like shaman overload for paladin).

It’s really hard to make a rune for a paladin without it having some similarity with shaman what is most likely a reason why one is getting worse ideas than the other.

meanwhile

  • competent rogues beating you in a CC lock because of mutilate, trinkets effectively worthless
  • Shamans 100-0 as enhance on a 6s cd.
  • MM still loads of buffing needed
  • Feral needs buffs.

You were saying?

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