I have played around 500 ranked, 2v2 arena matches with a PvP veteran that plays the best healing class in the game, Restoration Shaman. Well. We aren’t bad, but I’m just playing the wrong class. Yes. MM hunter sucks.
I do agree that nerfs to Aimed shot and kyrian covenant ability, resonating arrow were needed. But I can not understand why the hell nobody touched Paladins. The healing that Ret pala can do is insane. If player knows what to do, he can heal 50% of what resto shaman can heal during the game. That is unnaceptable. On top of it all, ret is as bursty as hunter and extremely tanky. How is this alright?
Holy paladin is problematic as well. Playing against holy isn’t as bad as playing against ret. It feels way better. But what IS broken is the fact that they do not deplete the mana over time. They basicly have infinite resources of mana, while other healing classes need to apply tactics to actually mana up in longer games. May I ask why is that? Holy pala + warrior, if played correctly - will never die to a burst of my class. Even if cc’d correctly. They got too many amazing tools, hence they will always gain adventage in prelonged games.
Shadowlands has MULTIPLE problems in terms of PvP. And I’m certain that everybody that plays arena knows what I’m talking about. It’s sad that nobody cares.
I agree, nearly every arena I enter has at least one paladin and I instantly roll my eyes cause I know they’ll be instantly healing any damage we put into anyone on their team, throwing bubbles everywhere while just deleting us with 14k crits inside a stun lock.
10 seconds of immunity is stupid powerful in an arena against physical classes. If you don’t have magic or a warrior it’s basically GG. Put a bubble on a high mobility spec and there’s nothing you can do to avoid them for 10 seconds. Put a bubble on a Druid that then casts convoke, it’s basically game over.
The biggest abomination with Paladins is that they’re capable of putting their invincibubble on Seeds, giving folks a free rez. I lost count of how many games I’ve lost cause of it.
Invincibubble on seed > instant heal the player to full when they rez.
You made a very good point on the bubble. That spell was created long time ago to compensate for lack of mobility of paladins. It’s a defensive tool, but with convoke of spirits of moonkin it becomes ultimate, offensive tool. That is not right at all.
Disagree Disc Priest has a kit that is stronger for PvP, Resto Shaman is a tiny bit easier to play though. But when we’re on the subject of Shamans have you seen the insane healing a Enhancement Shaman can do? They acutally outheal Rets.
You do realize that says more about the synergy between the two classes right? Warrior makes their team really robust and thanks to Mortal Strike effects etc the healers on the other teams needs to heal more than the Pala needs to hence why they oom before the Paladin.
Purely based on mana efficiency Resto Shaman for example is more efficient than Holy Paladin.
Without WoG and bubble we would just die in 2-3 GCDs at the beginning of arena… You don’t want pala nerf because it’s op, you just want it to be an easy target.
Yeah, apart from the fact that as a Ret now, I am lowest rated I’ve ever been? Yeah I only play with randoms, not a friend who I hit 2k with as a Afflock in a time when destro was that thing people cried abouy. If you think that there is a single class,spec or a broken mechanic keeping, literally anything but your lack skill you from getting high rated you are delusional.
