Pandaren average height?

Argent Dawn
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I am confused what would actually be the lore correct average height to assume for a Pandaren.

WoWPedia claims 7’ (213 Cm) for female Pandarens, and 7’5" (226 Cm) for male Pandarens, and appears to have it backed up by an official source, as far as I can see a Twitter statement on the matter from Blizzard, though, if I got the footnote correct, the Tweet it refers to seems to have been deleted.

WoWWiki though, has a completely different number for Pandaren average height, namely 5,5 Feet, which is 5’6" (168 Cm), but doesn’t actually inform about having any reference source for that claim.

I also heard some people claim that Pandarens would have about same average height as Humans.

So anyone know what would actually be the lore correct average height for Pandarens?

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WoWWiki is outdated to my knowledge, so you should go with the WoWPedia info. Especially if it’s been backed up by the official sources.

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While WoWPedia’s claim indeed seems to be the most legit, and also match my own assumptions on the matter pretty well, the reference source, unless I got the footnote wrong, has been deleted, and appears to originally have been an official Tweet on the matter from Blizzard, but as it, as said, has been deleted it is pretty impossible to actually have the source confirmed as it is now.

But unless someone else chime in with conflicting information that can be validated by an official source, I will go with the numbers from WoWPedia for now, does seem like they got it right to me.

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I’m the one who tweeted Loreology to get a ruling on the matter, and 7 for females and 7’5 for males is accurate. Unfortunately Loreology deleted his twitter since then.

He also pointed out that the part about them being 5 feet is incredibly non-canon as it comes from the non-canon RPG Player Guides written by an outside hire. All these guides (and especially their height charts) are considered very invalid because they clash with Blizzard’s own internal lore charts.

Here’s a screenshot of the tweet (through discord), the only one I was able to salvage in hindsight.

https://i.gyazo.com/25b2a8c4bdd1f664e251ad63397966b3.png

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Great, thank you very much for confirming this for certain.

Much appreciated. :slight_smile:

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I’m trying to archive the tweet on wayback machine. The page has a snapshot of his twitter feed 3 days after that tweet, but it’s a bit of a slog to browse through Loreology’s old twitter feed. He retweeted a lot of fan content.

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Do you know who is the guy to tweet about such stuff now friend? I’d like to ask about the Highmountain Tauren size.

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You could try your luck tweeting miscellaneous members of the development team, including writers. Jeremy Feasel (Muffinus) was able to respond about blood magic and where it lands on the Chronicle chart way back when, but your success may vary.

(it’s death magic btw)

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Thank you. Will try him then!

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The page errors when I try to access it :angry:

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I think they may be a bit larger than Kalimdor cousins
As in the War of the ancients Huln quests, after Jarod meets Huln
“Huln, what are those antlers? And you seem… Larger!”
Or said something like that, which i forgot

From that i assume HM may be bit larger

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Idk how helpful this is because it’s based on player models, but:

https://i.redd.it/ec7m3y184ex21.jpg

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Player models are out of whack. Tauren are 2ft shorter in-game than they are in lore (per an old tweet), as are orcs, worgen and more besides. Apparently a human female is the same height as a male orc (albeit hunched)? I find that unlikely when you look at any of the novels, comics or even the movie which depict orcs as being absolutely massive.

It bugs me that our resident lore guy keeps deleting his own twitter, he’s done it twice now I think. Makes pulling stuff up a PITA.

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Such quandaries do not worry me Darianuth, for I sit at one extreme of that scale and I’m not moving up or down anytime soon.

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True, I think everything between gnome and human is probably accurate, but all the ‘big’ races got dialled back both for gameplay reasons (Female tauren couldn’t enter molten core at one point) and to keep tauren as the ‘big’ race by making every other big race smaller as well.

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Thanks for trying to be helpful, but the official lore correct averarge height of Pandarens have already been confirmed, and sadly the in game model does a pretty poor job at reflecting that.

Originally backed up by an official Blizzard Twitter reply regarding the lore correct average height of Pandarens.

In fact for the in game Pandaren models to correctly reflect their actual real lore correct height they ought to have been about the same height as the Night Elf models, with the actual real lore correct avearge height for female Pandarens being 7’ and for male Pandarens 7’5".

Unfortunately it wouldn’t even be a viable solution to use any of the options the game offers for increasing the size of the character models to correct the issue, as for example various potions, as for one it is generally frowned at, regardless of weather it would actually reflect the real size of a given character more correctly, and secondly it would still make your Pandaren look out of proportions compared to other Pandaren characters not making use of any of the game’s size increasing options.

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The takeaway here is WoW desperately needs sliders for customisation.

To be blunt WoW’s character customisation is awful. Star Wars Galaxies had sliders for the body and face and that came out before WoW, it’s only became a more apparent weakness when modern MMOs have so much more in that department. But I can’t see WoW overhauling character creation anytime soon.

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There’s a number of explanations for that. Receiving the big Cenarius buff directly might biggen you up, or he might just look bigger because he has huuuuge antlers suddenly.

I would not take it as evidence all HM are outright larger, especially when you consider how insanely massive tauren are by default!

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Yes, I totally agree, I would love something like a slider for height and body type, of course pre-tuned/adjusted so that you would not be capable of going too extreme in either direction and making sure to keep the range of the sliders within what is reasonable for the individual races as well.

Unfortunately I don’t think it is something that Blizzard would actually even be interested in doing though, they seem to have a politic of wanting the game to look as streamlined as possible at the expense of the level of customization they will allow the players.

One can always hope though.

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I honestly believe the HMTauren NPC height is the ‘true’ height of tauren anyway.

Exhibit A) HMTauren PCs shrinking while NPCs stay huge.
Exhibit B) When a tauren PC stands next to a HMTauren NPC, the height difference looks like it might be around the missing 2 feet.

Also off topic but as I was digging through heights, turns out worgen might indeed average at 8 feet like I suspected (From making guesstimates from the comics and novels). Male worgen when standing fully upright at the apex of the /kiss animation actually end up at about 8 feet in height. So my theory that Dari’ being above average+standing upright makes him 8’5" or so actually has ground. I KNEW IT.