Pathfinder is a slap in the face

[Punyelf-draenor (Punyelf)]

@Eliquís-silvermoon

@Punyelf-draenor

The irony that the very thing that has barred some of those players from getting the renown is dragon riding and that they need regular flying to over come it is just a farce

Totally agree and also the fact Ion stated renown will not be forced to do in any matter.

I honestly think it would have been better as a main part of the storyline unlock. Could have been part of 10.2.

[Eliquís-silvermoon]

@Punyelf-draenor

I honestly think it would have been better as a main part of the storyline unlock. Could have been part of 10.2.

Like they did with ZM which was perfect.

Some rares
Storyline
Few treasures
Explore

that was enough for SL

[Billyblue-magtheridon]

@Punyelf-draenor

The irony that the very thing that has barred some of those players from getting the renown is dragon riding and that they need regular flying to over come it is just a farce

Lol, you’re making this up as you go along right?

Sersiouly.

Some people are just trying to play the wrong game. Maybe getting a Nintendo switch might be more suitable.

[Furyeclipser-stormscale]

@Billyblue-magtheridon

For a long time Pathfinder has been added to a late patch in the expansion to allow “Flying” in the new Continent.

And was in game on day one(except wod), so you would work on it while requirements were fresh content.
This time around it’s just appearing out of nowhere with requirements what is/will be old content.

[Punyelf-draenor (Punyelf)]

@Eliquís-silvermoon

@Punyelf-draenor

I honestly think it would have been better as a main part of the storyline unlock. Could have been part of 10.2.

Like they did with ZM which was perfect.

Some rares
Storyline
Few treasures
Explore

that was enough for SL

The aim with pathfinders in the past was just to gate the playerbase from being able to access flying for a set period of time. That is kind of pointless in a version where we’ve had dragon riding from day 1.

I’ve never had motion sickness in any wow expansion with the exception of the rep/xp buff from DMF but I can look away from my screen while it clocks up. There isn’t really a workaround in DF, I have had to take so many breaks just sat afk somewhere in the world while I wait for the nausea to subside.

I’m glad so many are enjoying Dragon Riding and I’m all for them bringing to the rest of Azeroth and beyond but just let us keep slow flap too. Treat both equally.

[Netsjerian-argent-dawn]

@Billyblue-magtheridon

Then maybe try and advocate for better improvement of the Motionsickess tools, rather than dumbing down the game for everyone else.

It is not dumbed down for anyone giving out normal flying 1 year into an expansion where everyone got superior flying on day 1.

[Punyelf-draenor (Punyelf)]

@Furyeclipser-stormscale

@Billyblue-magtheridon

For a long time Pathfinder has been added to a late patch in the expansion to allow “Flying” in the new Continent.

And was in game on day one(except wod), so you would work on it while requirements were fresh content.
This time around it’s just appearing out of nowhere with requirements what is/will be old content.

Also very true.

The details weren’t known at the start. People were under the impression renown was meaningless.

[Eliquís-silvermoon]

I ran out of likes so have a and now i see who you are debating with , good luck on that.

[Punyelf-draenor (Punyelf)]

@Netsjerian-argent-dawn

@Billyblue-magtheridon

Then maybe try and advocate for better improvement of the Motionsickess tools, rather than dumbing down the game for everyone else.

It is not dumbed down for anyone giving out normal flying 1 year into an expansion where everyone got superior flying on day 1.

I honestly don’t get why some feel so threatened by others being given slow flying. It’s a total disadvantage over Dragon Riding.

Take the Secrets of Azeroth event. Everyone else complaining how slow it was to go back to the old mounts and I was thinking it was amazing that I could just travel around without wanting to throw up.

[Billyblue-magtheridon]

@Netsjerian-argent-dawn

It is not dumbed down for anyone giving out normal flying 1 year into an expansion where everyone got superior flying on day 1.

It is being given to everyone for free.

The requirements for the achievement are nothing. I looked this morning what I needed to do in preparation, and had everything already done. I just played the game.

[Billyblue-magtheridon]

@Furyeclipser-stormscale

And was in game on day one(except wod), so you would work on it while requirements were fresh content.
This time around it’s just appearing out of nowhere with requirements what is/will be old content.

I didn’t play WoD. But I remember in BFA. In SL it was part of the questline of the new patch, but was unlocked once it was suitable and the content was complete. Just like it is now.

[Furyeclipser-stormscale]

That is simply not true. Flying was enabled at that start of the S3, but achievement itself was in the game on day one. You could to see it, to track it, to work on it.

[Gram-ghostlands (Gram)]

@Xandrolar-hellfire

Pathfinder has been a thing in every expansion for how many expansions now?

3 of 9 expansions had a Pathfinder achievement.

SL did away with it in Zerith Mortis as this was supposed to be the new design model, less by way of forced grinds. So it is not unreasonable to assume that DF might continue the SL model and simpy unlock flying by completing a quest chain in a later patch.
Also this expansion is designed around flying and flying was provided to everyone for free (no grinding, no timegating) on day of the expansion. So it is not unreasonable to expect the lesser form of flying to be similarly ungated (apart from waiting for the patch).
Then there is the issue of those who can’t use Dragon riding being severely disadvantaged in these grinds.

Having 6 rep grinds is silly, unnecessary and will put many players off coming back. It’s not good for anyone.
I have 5 of 6 already at Renown 15 so it will come down to what is required for Renown 15 with these Dream Wardens. If it involves Dragon Riding then I’m stuffed or at least slowed down.

[Billyblue-magtheridon]

Source:

BFA Pathfinder Achievement.

[Sylvare-argent-dawn (Sylvare)]

@Gram-ghostlands

SL did away with it in Zerith Mortis as this was supposed to be the new design model, less by way of forced grinds.

SL also only allowed flight in a few zones, one of which was not oribos, nor could you transit between the zones
I would argue that SL flying wasn’t ‘true flying’ for that reason

on the general arguement regardless of what I think of dragon flying vs normal flying its goofy to put it behind an achievement since regular flying is just an inferior dragon flying

[Furyeclipser-stormscale]

Are you referring to part 2?

[Billyblue-magtheridon]

Oh maybe. But who knows. I did it all as I played the game. Just like this one.

Also, the DF requirements are So basic, it’s not really comparable.

[Netsjerian-argent-dawn]

@Billyblue-magtheridon

The requirements for the achievement are nothing. I looked this morning what I needed to do in preparation, and had everything already done. I just played the game.

We’ve been through this “just playing the game” multiple times in this topic.

[Billyblue-magtheridon]

@Netsjerian-argent-dawn

We’ve been through this “just playing the game” multiple times in this topic.

I know right. And you still can’t grasp the concept.

[Punyelf-draenor (Punyelf)]

@Netsjerian-argent-dawn

@Billyblue-magtheridon

The requirements for the achievement are nothing. I looked this morning what I needed to do in preparation, and had everything already done. I just played the game.

We’ve been through this “just playing the game” multiple times in this topic.

Honestly no point. If you have cleared raids and got 3k rio you’re not playing the game. The only game is Renown in their world.

It’s just a repeat back and forth. Pointless.