Pathfinder is a slap in the face

And it is still wrong.

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Oh sorry, so I’ve not been playing the game because I only got to 2.7k RIO, and then needed to go back to work, so couldn’t play for most of the season whilst players were pushing past the requirements to go that extra 300 rating so they can flex on the forums to get their point across, instead of clearing up the content they missed out on, which everyone else did in the first 2 weeks of the expansion.

Well I’m glad my Luxury Travel job takes me around the world, whilst those 3k guys are sat in front of their computer screens steaming because they just found out they need to farm 15 renown.

Maybe some day.

Nothing wrong about it at all.

It just doesn’t work for you. That’s not the concept being wrong, that’s just it’s not for you.

That’s not my problem or anyone elses. Just yours.

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No, they use what is provided to them to help them get by… and most of the time they’re just happy and get on with what they’re capable of doing.

And this topic is about people not being able to be bothered to farm 15 renown, it has nothing to do with disabilities.

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It is 2 things obviously. When blizzard states we do not need renown outside of transmogs, people who are not interested are not going to grind it. That is for sure. But also when going out in the current world is making you literally sick, you are also not very motivated to do it either.

And you act like we have a choice of getting sick or not. Those motion sickness options are not working. You act like we have not tried to get out in the world. But sure somewhere you give up when it literally makes you sick.

Have you tried to play for 10 months on a ground mount? Have you tried to get around in the cavern only on a ground mount? Noticed how terrible the areas are designed for a ground mount? No you probably not.

The game is created with flying in mind. It is what it is. Sure there are options to also get renown. But you have to go out of your normal playstyle. You have to grind it instead of play the game.

It is unfortunately some people do not realise and just throw the most nonsense argument with “just play the game”. You have no clue what you talk about.

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Did they really say that though? Or is it just another one of those things which players thought they said.

Besides whether they actually said it or not, that was the case for a very long time. And I have never thought it unreasonable to expect some kind of Pathfinder or Meta achievement to be implemented into a later patch, and Renown is by far an obvious inclusion into that system.

Oh and lets not forget all those players who want Blizzard to make old content relevant again.

Yet and if the world continued to move at the pace of the slowest people, we would still be in caveman times. (which might be better considering the current world situations).

Instead the world moves at the speed of it fittest and best, and then does what it can do to help the less abled enjoy the experience as well. But you can’t dumb down the experience of those at the top, just because you struggling to get off the starting line (exaggerated comparison).

It’s not about not having a clue. Its a simple case of not caring.

The guy making the argument that they’re 3k rated and didn’t bother to do renown, it more than capable of learning to Dragonride. They’re just defeatist and can’t be bothered to try something new.

Motion sickness, I understand, I suffered from it as a child. But if something is making you sick and spoiling the experience, don’t torture yourself… just do something that doesn’t upset you.

And next patch Pathfinder will be available, and if you’ve been playing the game to date, you’ll have all the requirements completed already.

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Yes but this doesn’t mean there can’t be a little consideration given to such people.

All we’re talking about here is removing the requiement for 6 rep grinds from an achievement that doesn’t really need this.
The rep grinds are still there. And people who struggle with dragon riding might actually complete the rep grinds if they can use normal flying to do so.

Removing this requirement doesn’t impact on the game in any way. Those that have done the rep grind would have done it anyhow. I’m doing them, won’t be finished it for quite a while, it’s not fast when you can’t just fly around digging dirt, killing rares and clearing WQs.

This requirement harms some players but doesn’t benefit any players. This is a Lose - Draw situation.
Removing the rep requirement is a Win - Draw situation.

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Exploration seems more appropriate tbh rather than renown. I don’t think anyone minds having to run around on the ground, or be flown around by a friend to discover all the nook and crannies.

And a point in the campaign etc.

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Yes, exactly. This more than Dragonriding needed to unlock and is pretty much what Zerith Mortis needed. The only rough part of Zerith Mortis unlock for flying was the req to kill 10 rares. Getting to them before they died was a pain when others could fly and you couldn’t.

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There is and there has been. But it doesn’t matter how considerate you are, there will always be a small minority of players that it’s not good enough for. And they’ll kick up a fuss about it. Just like what has happened here.

Both are the requirements, along with completing the basic story questlines of each zone.

An easy to complete achievement to anyone who has played Dragonflight since launch (if somehow they haven’t managed to do so already), and not much to do to catch up on for new players. It’s simply the basics.

Because nobody wants this:

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I’m not struggling to understand the requirements OR the issues that some players are facing. :wink:

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Every time I’m in a ‘bad transmog’ competition nearly everyone goes for that TBC look :rofl:

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Why do you even care so much if people get flying for free? The zones and quests were designed with flying in mind. Flying is not a reward, it’s a basic mechanic that is required to clear the content without suffering.

What? Do you get enjoyment out of telling everyone how easy it is and that anyone who didn’t get the requirements by now is bad and doing it wrong?

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