Should still be doable. Like as Alchemist you can make around 6k every 3 days or so (that is if you buy mats from the AH instead of farming. Otherwise its like 8k). Probably around the same for the other crafting profs.
Other than that start of xpac is always good to make a poopton of gold with gathering like 100k in an hour.
Most really do not care about others paying for easy options within the game. Where the problem lies with me is that the game is being developed in a direction that is forcing players who would normally not buy tokens to needing them just to compete.
I really intended the early xpac to be like that, even got the early access and took some time offâŚ
Only to receive a few day ban for a name that Iâve used since 2012⌠Bye bye early access lol - had me fairly salty for a bit and kind of behind the very early moneymakers that was supposed to set me up until Christmas holidays 
In which way? I have maybe spent 800k on my Rogue during progression (and thats overpriced embellishment crafts twice (so 4 in total) and equally overpriced rank 3 enchants). But that is gold YOU arent supposed to use because youâre not required to do so. And the ones where its expected to use such an amount of gold you have enough ways to make gold in the first place.
Like lets say youâre in a world 700 (or higher) guild and your RL/GM tells you to waste a bazillion gold on overpriced junk at the start of an xpac then kindly tell him to shove it because hes talking rubbish.
I think I could still make easy money a couple weeks into the tier with gathering (at least thats when I stopped to care as the initial embellishment / enchant costs were done for me)
The whole game is built on FOMO. No you do not have to buy things just to compete, but BliÂŁÂŁard knows people will. This is why the game is being changed in that direction.
All the bluster with âno one is forcing youâ to is probably the worst part of it. It is a pretty contemptable approach. It makes you as bad as the people in BliÂŁÂŁard who are pushing this by being complicit in the narrative.
You can question their morales sure. But that people assume they need overpriced stuff (of which the prices are set up by us players) is on them as well. Like even today I donât use Rank 3 pots or flasks outside of the Main Raid (where they are being provided). Iâm using Rank 2s and have yet so see a person that complains about it (And I donât assume anyone to complain below 12s). Enchants have dropped enough to justify me buying rank 3s for alts.
Spare me your lectures for they are facepalm incarnate. By what I am saying I am advocating AGAINST the purchase of tokens for gold purposes as I am telling people not to waste their gold on overpriced junk just because they feel they need it while they in fact do not but that flew right above your head didnt it?
Iâm still using ranks 2s in 12s.
Atleast you do.
I see people on +10 with no leg enchants.
Rank1 cost like 100g like wtf.
win what ?
Everything resets every 5-6 months
Then an expansion every two years makes everything completely obsolete
so winning what exactly ?
The only winner is Bli$$
OFC it is p2w.
You pay a monthly sub, you win it. Thanks, this is my contribution to this non-sense.
Full enchanting is still like 20-25k gold though. It isnt cheap.
I donât like the tokens and will never use them.
On the other hand, gold selling was around since the beginning. So at least now it is âsafeâ.
And yes ofc Blizzard wants to make money, but you donât need the tokens to play the game in any way or another.
Tokens=WoW gold=Time spent.
If I were a cynical game company and I was being told to hit a higher revenue target by my owner, and one of my main sources of revenue was a certain item that customers would be more inclined to buy if they were in need of additional in-game currency, then I would strongly consider steering my product design toward making the game experience more reliant on that currency.
Well, if you use r3 enchants, then sure. But r1 and r2 alot cheaper.
Second expansion in a roll I am barely spending gold though, and I play at a high-ish level.
Your point in relation to what I was saying, being what exactly?
That the game is not reliant to the currency. And much like Krerias said, itâs your (general you) own fault for spending too much gold on stuff you donât need.
The game isnât, or you personally are not?
I mean multiple people here that are playing on a high level donât seem to be having problems with their gold. In fact itâs mostly people that are doing the lower end difficulties and/or classic alts that seem to be complaining about gold costs and needing to buy tokens.
Okay, but that has nothing to do with what I said.
Admittedly I said it in a somewhat musing manner, but nevertheless.
What I said was that the currency design in WoW is linked to the sales of WoW Tokens. And if you want to sell more WoW Tokens, then you can increase the emphasis on the currency in the game.
It was a: âHereâs what I think Blizzard will do in the future if they are cynical greedy pricks.â
It wasnât a commentary on your personal play experience, or any otherâs.