PCU Discussion, Questions and Views

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Just to add to points about disruptors not being from PCU, I´ve seen one of people who were shouting more or less OOC stuff during the riot (I think Belarus was even mentioned) also yelled things against PCU.

Remember people, just because public event is organized by PCU doesn´t mean it will only have PCU in it. Especially if it happens in the biggest RP hub on the server. There will be lollers, really low quality RPers and maybe even people purposefully trying to make the event look bad to further their narrative.

But, if you´ve seen PCU members (I know, can be hard when many of us were on alts to provide NPCs, but there are means to check if person who did it has characters in PCU guilds) doing something questionable during the riot and have screens, contact their officer.

I´ve experienced similar lag when I started RPing on the server right after BfA launched. People who were complaining about it might get used to it, as pre-patch is really close. Stormwind is lag-free because there are not that many players in general, that´s bound to change once Shadowlands comes.

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Stuff like this confuses me.

Ideally what we’d all like on an RP server, is a world where the RP feels like it’s the number one factor you know? Be it big, small or otherwise. So at any point should our fancy so decide it, we can lose ourselves in Azeroth from anywhere to 30 mins to 4 hours.

Now the PCU is a community that actually is taking proactive steps to try and do this, by making events that are open access for the server, and thrust RP into the spotlight to make it that principle factor it should be.

But when they do, it seems the order of the day is criticism from many. Why?

I’m not saying their events are necessarily perfect, nor suited to absolutely every taste, but they’re potent and they’re back by a cadre of individuals whom want to make RP their focus.

I feel like rather than sniping from the sides, a lot of people would be better off either considering communicating with the PCU directly, or even collaborating. Contrary to popular belief not all guilds in it are attached to the puppet strings of Perroy, but are simple guilds signed up to the basic premise of RP standards and looking to benefit from the large player pool.

Attend an event that wasn’t to your tastes exactly? Then try and be part of the creative force that bore it and get involved so you can throw your ideas into the mix.

This whole “I’m not part of the PCU nor do I interact with them…but…I have this to say about their events and think they should do X.” Is akin to someone taking issue with the efforts of a local council in some areas say, but making absolutely no effort to engage with their local politics, nor be part of it, not interact with the councillor or their team. Instead they moan in their back garden loudly and hope the councillor hears them.

If you do genuinely want change and believe genuinely you’ve identified legitimate causes for concern, what do you have to lose by interacting with the folks directly? You’ll either be proven wrong and a better solution you want will come out of it, or you’ll be proven right and have the evidence to back it up.

Is it possible people are afraid of the interacting in this way because they want to believe what they’ve heard and they don’t want to be faced with the prospect that they’re wrong? Plenty of people love to have a shadowy cabal to hate on, it makes one feel like a brave defector after all, a freethinker. It’s possible imo that this is the case, because if people were serious about these things, why waste time faffing about on the forums?

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Alright level eleven alt I’ll be sure to forward your concerns to upper management directly.

I agree in a major way, the gal these people have, being short with someone that called them trash! It’s just not okay!

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One look at Tehya’s behemothian post count indicates their in game characters are actually their alts

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A more fitting analogy would be a child smacking a bear on the nose with a stick and then being surprised when the bear bites them back.

Just because the group are large and have a server impact it doesn’t mean they aren’t entitled to be defensive against those who open proceedings with them via directly aggressive or passive aggressive means.

This is a community we’re talking about here, not a corporation. Perroy has no direct executive power to stop people reacting to such on their individual whims.

Expecting PCU members to not “bite back” is surely exactly the kind of “different treatment” you bring up. So what is it? Do we expect them to behave like most humans who don’t tend to treat people favourably when they attack them from the off, or do we hold them to special standards (which your post suggests you have a problem with)?

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Just checked it for myself. That CheckPvP site is quite handy for such things.

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U realize that would make this a level 3 alt by your math right
Just to be entirely clear

Maybe go back to pre-school and figure out the concept of adding numbers before you weigh in with super duper valued takes from an alt.

Public is fine too but blizzard will nuke it so thats not really efficient communication i would say personally

Just because its true doesnt mean you can just say these kind of things :pensive:

Yeah it is in fact extremely easy to figure out who I am
I continue posting on Tehya because it’s funny + haha big post count

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Yeah i called you level 11 which is the number presently right next to your name

LOL!

Anyway you should get a hobby or something because this is kind of sad in many ways

But i guess you’re just kinda here to poke the proverbial sleeping bear

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Arguing in good faith, are we? Seems like you

Some high quality tinfoil you have there.

If the server wanted nothing to do with us, we wouldn´t have over 200 active members on that very server and that´s not even mentioning many RPers who interact with us or don´t mind our presence.
You realize that PCU wasn´t just spawned from nothing, it´s result of years of RP on this server that quite clearly is interesting for many people, right?

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The instant “no u”

You’re as predictable as a house tour

Damn you should show (convincing, not faked) evidence of this to their members then because apparently over 200 people rlly enjoy the RP instead (u should too its what we’re on this server for)

If you have any evidence of real stalking (read: not just someone being replied to ingame or otherwise) i’ll happily see it

But i think u dont
And i think you should trivialize such serious things, thats kind of yikes my guy

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Can you list exactly 1 RP guild bigger than the PCU community for me? Thanks

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And with that the Keyboard Warriors come out and start to bash the PCU. Simple you don’t like them don’t interact with them there is more to worry in life rather than worry about what is happening in a game.

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Right, that´s why we hear about so many epic RP happening on Earthen Ring provided by their 200 active RPers.

No, in fact it´s pretty huge given that there is not a single community nearing that size.

Today I learned ingame characters are players.
Well, seems I am 30 people.

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The inability to do math, randomly accusing people of being PCU, the claim that there are RP guilds on WoW with more active members than PCU as a whole.

It’s all coming together…

Don’t tell me you spend another pile of Albanian neetbux on another WoW alt, Lilynore. Please somehow convince me it’s not you again

Ahh they edited in a GSL mention, there it issss

Hey lilynore how are you

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I’m not in any PCU Guild so there we go again with that big brush painting everyone with it.

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I’m getting really sick of this PCU this PCU that, I can only imagine how tired the members must be.
I recognise myself in OP, I haven’t been able to settle for a main in BFA either and so haven’t joined a guild. I plan to make more room for RP though and find a home in Shadowlands on this one or my Human that will be my main. I don’t know if it will be a PCU guild or not and what decides that is what guild will suit the character best, there are a lot of guilds out there that are not PCU that are going well, and the events PCU makes are often welcoming for others, even campaigns at times which they post on the forums. I really do not get this outraged response they get from some ppl that I can only see boil down in fear for doing worse and jealousy. It’s really petty, you think ppl would be supportive of RP guilds and communities on the last big RP realm in EU.

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Either way you’ll always be welcome to attend!

Well, we do run the occassional in-house plot where it’d be clunky to fit in everyone due to it being driven by our cross-20-guilds narrative. But other than that? We’ll keep running cool public stuff for sure.

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Treating people as you want to be treated fails in the first instance when the instigating mechanic is some random badmouthing the entire community because of stuff like hearsay.

Again, why do PCU have to hold themselves to this standard but not the random guy who yells how they’re all dark cabal , or bigots, or whatever because he heard it from some dude? Unless of course that person believes being attacked due to membership of a group based on lazy stereotyping is a good form of behaviour?

As said I have no horse in this race, I just don’t get why people do it this way when there are channels to do it like taking it up with those who can action it? This airing dirty laundry approach is like most things like this, it’s an attempt to claim “no smoke without fire” and few people who do that are genuinely concerned with fire hazards, they’re doing it to stir the pot in a way that feels safe without directly interacting with those they criticise.

I’ll srcap the bear analogy, it’s like kids in school talking smack about other kids to everyone else but them, and then when those kids try and call them out on it, they feign innocence or act like the injured party.

As said if concerns are genuine, grapple with the beast directly. There’s nothing heroic about moaning to it to your neighbour loudly. More to the point it won’t resolve anything if there is something that does need solving. It’s just a completely ineffective way to do things.

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Yeah, why wouldn’t we ? I mean, I can’t speak for everyone but personally I would RP with anyone that is not a massive creep/hateful/cyberer.

Idk if you know it or not but rules exist.

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