Again, when you criticized them for RPing in Stormwindâs dwarven district instead of Ironforge.
Glad to see youâre still with us despite the claim of having better things to do.
As before, apology accepted but incident no less remembered.
Quote me where I actually said it then.
I NEVER said they couldnât or shouldnât. I questioned why they were headquartered there.
I said I didnât have the time to be in game. Once again my words are twisted.
Quote where the word âheadquarteredâ was ever used in this thread (apart from by you)
The post you replied to so eagerly just stated that the guild - while in Stormwind - would be hanging around the Dwarven District (which I feel in the context of Stormwind is the most thematic sub-zone for a dwarven guild for various reasons that I hope should be fairly apparent)
lol
Still waiting for you in Ironforge my thane
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yeah exactly you criticized them for being a group of dwarves 
ased in the dwarven district. Weâve been kinda cycling thru that same path since post 60.
Makâgora? Wrong thread, kiddo⊠this is now a wrestling match in the mud between Dwarves.
We Dwarves call it a Makâpogra
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How about the words âBased out ofâ? Or did you conveinently skip those words?
during the recent campaign the League were based out of the Westfall Brigade Encampment, does this mean that the WB Encampment is now the very heart of the Leagueâs operations forevermore?
Was the post you replied to. The âbased out ofâ part âŠ
was a post by you
So ⊠youâre arguing with yourself against a post you personally made
LOL
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was a post by you
So ⊠youâre arguing with yourself against a post you personally made
LOL
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Youâve still not provide any quote that says I said you couldnât or shouldnât RP out of the Dwarven District. Which you keep saying I said.
Youâve accused me over and over again of variations of something Iâve never said. You keep spouting how Iâve said that Dwarves can only be in Ironforge.
Show Me Where I Explicitly Wrote Any Of That!
You canât show said text, because it never existed, because I have not said that, nor have I EVER said or implied that.
So you admit this whole time youâre just arguing with your own fevered imagination - and losing?
Yeah but what youâre arguing with was never said either so I guess you got owned (by yourself)
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OK, lemme try to take your side here. Letâs put all the personal stuff aside and go back to the original criticism, which you posted to be helpful to the organisers. Letâs go back to the thing you found odd:
So in other words, the feedback you are giving to the guild organisers is:
- If your guild operates on behalf of the Dwarven senate, it would be sensible to have its headquarters in Ironforge.
- IC reason: Realism. Ironforge is presumably where your orders are written and sent from, the dwarven armyâs supplies are stored, your troops have appropriate accommodations etc
- OOC reason: You basing there would help to repopulate Ironforge as a hub. Thatâs desirable because having multiple hubs, especially those that benefit racial communities, is good for the RP community
Correct me if Iâm wrong, thatâs my interpretation. There may be a few more reasons that support your argument that I couldnât think of.
They have provided counter-arguments and clarifications in response to your feedback.
For the IC reasons:
They get sent out into the world a lot and can restock supplies in Stormwind instead, which is only a short tram ride away, and the facilities are appropriate for dwarves.
Depending on how elaborately you imagine the chain of command, deployment orders may even originate from Moira Thaurissan in Stormwind, rather than go from her to some official in Ironforge and then back to the unit thatâs meant to carry them out.
The guild clearly doesnât ignore Ironforgeâs importance. The actual headquarters may in fact be there already, aka: the place where the GMâs boss hangs out and summons the guild to, when heâs got deployment orders for them. They actively acknowledge and involve the location in their RP.
The guild just doesnât rely on it for recruitment and casual interactions with RPers. (Since those things generally rely on the presence of other RPers which, yannow, are not often found in Ironforge)
Thatâs the IC reasons satisfyingly explained and counter-argued, wouldnât you say?
Counter-arguments against the OOC reasons:
Sounds reasonable to me. Guilds tend to die when they cut themselves off from casual, unplanned RP, especially if the guild is newly made.
I think thatâs the OOC feedback appropriately counter-argued and explained too.
If you agree, then you and the guildâs organisers are on the same page and this is solved. 
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The fact that ur typing like thisâŠActually makes me thing Perroy just pushed every single button needed to turn u from calm gamer into a fully raging altposter
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No, Iâve been arguing with a grade A 
-poster who gets his lolâs from getting a rise out people.
You keep telling yourself that.
You have said in several posts, that I have said Dwarves couldnât roleplay outside of Ironforge. Thatâs you accusing me. Iâve never written that in any form. You have taken several opportunites to belittle me as a low level âaltâ, and as the PCU donât do anything alone, so some of your cohorts have jumped in the thread for a few potshots.
Say what ever it is you will in response that makes you feel like the victor and gets that well done slap on the back from your stooges, I doubt I can think any worse of you than I already do, and it sure as hell wonât make me think any better of you.
Yeh, we see through ur lie really easily and banish u to the shadowrealm
(u said in any form)
Exactly. Our formal headquarters are in the Military Ward, especially since our fallen members have some sort of plaque-of-remembrance a la Arlington cementary in there.
Bingo. Just because we are in Stormwind between the 1 - 2 days without events (aka rest days), doesnât mean Stormwind is a central part of our identity/RP.
Plus: Shadowforge Soldiers parade the streets of Stormwind in the form of NPCs as well.
Weâve never yet relied on Stormwind and its organs for supplies IC, but itâll definitely pop-up if weâre (for example) on a mission outside of Khaz Modan. Such as Stranglethorn, for example. Why weâd be there would need an IC explanation, but you know, examples.
Very nicely put, Hollins.
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Youâre welcome, I hope to get a reply from Thoryan too, Iâm curious.
E: sorry about further derailment
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No, youâre literally arguing against a post that doesnât exist + has never existed because youâre upset that nobody wants to RP exactly where you want them to
That was your implication
Neither has what youâre claiming to be replying to
Donât flatter yourself, gamer. I will forget about you existing within 10min of closing this thread. Your opinion wasnât a big priority for me
You should post on your main, it might be a bit more memorable
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if youâre just gonna repeat the same stuff over and over, we should probably just quote ourselves to respond to you Ironforge Man.
Which you indeed did say by complaining about dwarves RPing in the dwarven district when you entered this thread circa 100 bumps ago
noooo youâre such terrible people for calling out my goonposting!!!
Come off it lol, if you GRRRR at the concept of a bigger + better community than anything youâre in so much, why even bother with this transparent stirring in a PCU thread.
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