RDF existed for only half of WoTLK, the inferior half as far as I’m concerned, my fondest memories were the first half.
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What about all this things =>
Yes and we did not have these things until ICC
- Summoning Stones: To use any Summoning stone, a character must be at least level 15. There is no maximum level to use these meeting stones.
- Health and Mana Regeneration: These regeneration rates have been increased up to 200% for low level characters. As the character level increases, regeneration rates gradually decrease, until returning to normal rates at level 15.
- Troll and Orc shaman totems now have their own unique appearance.
- Nerfed Oculus
- The distance at which these health bars are visible to players has been increased by 40 yards. (oh wait, isn’t already enabled on TBC ?
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- The speed of improving the Norfendre reputations has been increased by approximately 30%.
Yes and we did not have these things until ToC
- Cast duration to summon any ground mount is now 1.5 seconds, down from 3 seconds.
- The skill Apprentice Rider (75) can now be learned at level 20 for 4 gold. A letter will be sent to characters reaching level 20 to direct them to the riding master.
Companion Rider skill (150) can now be learned at level 40 for 50 gold. A letter will be sent to characters reaching level 40 to send them again to the riding master.
The Expert Rider skill (225) can now be learned at level 60 for 600 gold from Honor Hold or Thrallmar masters. Faction discounts are now applied (Honour Hold for the Alliance, Thrallmar for the Horde). Flight speed at this skill level increased to 150% of run speed from 60%.
Artisan Rider Skill (300): Faction discounts are now applied (Honor Hold or Valor Expedition for the Alliance, Thrallmar or Warsong Offensive for the Horde).
To continue harmonizing the number of mounts available for purchase for each race, a new 60% speed ground mount has been added for night elves, and a new 100% speed ground mount has been added for Forsaken.- Object comparisons: by pressing the Shift key. while hovering over an item with the mouse now displays the stat differences from the currently equipped item in the corresponding slot.
- Portals have been added to Orgrimmar and Stormwind to lead players to the Stairs of Destiny at the Dark Portal.
- A new zeppelin dock has been added to Thunder Bluffs to allow Horde players easier travel to and from Orgrimmar.
- The local mail department got tired of walking so far each day to collect mail and decided to install a large number of new mailboxes in Stormwind, Undercity, Darnassus and Orgrimmar.
- All stackable potions are now stackable by 20.
Yes and we did not have these things until Ulduar
- All ground mounts can now swim without unhorsing their rider. Flying mounts still cannot swim and dismount their rider when entering water.
- DOUBLE SPEC
- Applying a glyph no longer requires being near a Lexicon of Power. The same rules apply for changing glyphs
- Players no longer need to complete the Nat Pagle, Extreme Angler quest to become Artisan Anglers. The quest rewards you with a special premium fishing rod. Players who have already completed this quest can visit Nat Pagle in Dustwallow Marsh to receive this new fishing rod.
RDF is not a RAID or a DUNGEON, it’s a mecanic/parameter like all i listed before.
You just want a CUSTOM WOTLK, you don’t like this game, go to Classic ERA and stop trying to ruin our game.
And it’s just a random list.
What about them? You’re the one trying to tell me that i don’t like WoTLK if I don’t like your game breaking feature; most of everything that you’ve listed there is barely memorable.
Blizzard altered Classic and TBCC in a way that they feel makes the game better or more playable, a way that encourages future growth. They’ve deemed RDF as detrimental to the game’s health as a whole; and I agree. Cataclysm would have been better had WoTLK not added the RDF.
If we get RDF, the game ends with WoTLK once again. If we don’t, Blizzard have grounds to continue with future expansions within the Classic style or alternatively, even continue with Classic+.
If you want your precious RDF so badly, go play a time-limitted pirate server.
Not necessarily RDF but something that’s preventing the need to spam 85 minutes for a tank.
Potential advantage of chat-based LFD is that I can look for an activity for my alt, or even multiple at once. Right now I can monitor dungeons for my mains.
I hope the WLK UI allows that.
Also the “tanking incentive” bag.
I said the exact same thing that Classic players in 2019 told us
“If you want RDF you don’t like Classic, this game isn’t for you, go back to retail or wait Wotlk”
I said exactly the same thing to Classic players in 2019
“If you want the real authentic experience go back to pserv”
They just said “No, pserv are bad”
Ok
So Classic players are always right and everything other say is wrong
The new LFG tool ?
You won’t even think about RDF anymore in P1/P2 because it’s gonna be easy to find groups.
I said almost the same thing, I didn’t mention WoTLK because Blizzard had already stated they were on the fense about RDF in WoTLK.
Or perhaps you’re just wrong? Have you ever considered that? Seriously, take a good look at your post history and then confidently tell me that those posts were all written by a rational thinker.
And don’t tell my i’m wrong and not rational while all Classic players was dreaming and they get disapointing and making post on the forum like “I don’t remember that in Vanilla” “The game as changed” “Players have changed” etc
Your thread is a waste of time and doesn’t address a single thing that I’ve said to you.
Your entire premise here is “But the other guy!”. You really call that an argument?
It’s also completely wrong. We in Classic had to accept changes, you do too.
This is your entire post summed up. And it’s wrong.
I don’t think I deserve anything other than having fun for paying for a game.
Sitting in chat spamming for hours isn’t fun to me so I log out. It’s really that simple.
The rest of your drivel I don’t frankly give a flying toss about cause as you said, Firemaw.
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How does less heroics being done help keep any tier relevant? Walk me through this?
Translation of this post: “Sod off till prepatch, you’re beneath me, for I am Sandy, troll priest who did MUH DUES IN DA VIDYAGAEM”
maybe read all the other replies.
Kinda, but you have to be queued in the tool to be able to see LFG chat. And on any reasonably sized modern server it’s going to need LFG Bulletin, just like now.
Should note that the tanking incentive bag wasn’t a thing in WotLK.
The rewards were strictly replacing the daily dungeon/heroics and adding low level goodie bags to incentivise people to do low level dungeons (as in pre Northrend).
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I did, it’s not explained.
How do 5 mans that don’t change throughout the expansion help keep new content relevant for longer?
i have explained it.
Okay, point me to it cause I clearly missed it.
What a load of BS. During wrath, levelling through Vanilla content on the biggest servers, there were very few people throughout the day in zones. You’d be lucky if you had maybe 7 people in a zone. The older the game got, the worse this also got. Which is the reason why they added CRZ because every zone was empty. Without RDF people would simply not be getting into groups much, even moreso for people who played during nighttime. But hey, screw them right? Who cares about anyone else being able to have fun as long as you can find groups for endgame.
Such lovely, “social” people some of the anti-RDF crowd are. Everyone has to play the game as they dictate or else you can just leave the game.
And also LOL at
It couldn’t possible be about there being too many DPS classes, people not wanting offmeta specs, playing during nighttime etc etc. No, it has got to be the attitude.
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Blizzard revamped the world with Cataclysm, the world was still empty because it was more efficient to AFK in a town and spam RDF. CRZ wasn’t a thing until MoP.
All the aggression on this board has come from the pro-RDF side.
RDF doesn’t stop that.
“Offmeta specs” in WoTLK? There aren’t any. Good luck convincing people that your magic-poison meme rogue spec is viable, but actual specs are all fine.
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Ye, that’s bs again. People who would sit in town waiting for a dungeon to pop were a minority of levellers. Fact is, less and less people were levelling, the same thing was already happening in original TBC. When I levelled during BT for example, vanilla zones were mostly empty. The same thing when I was levelling when TBC came out.
I never said it wasn’t, I said CRZ was added because the zones got more empty. But I probably could have worded it better.
Ah yes, the non agression of the lovely and social “go back to retail” / “then quit” people.
True, but it did make it easier to find groups. With all these people levelling on megaservers, you can’t even find a group during the night most of the times. Screw them then?
Alot of people still think that way unfortunately. Once it’s on people’s minds that certain specs sucked in Vanilla and TBC, it tends to stay there. The same is true for Retail, feral comes to mind.
Look, I don’t have a problem with LFG and the new one, or making groups myself. But I’m not blind to the problems it also has, such as playing during offtimes. And like I said, finding groups for Vanilla content will become increasingly harder and harder.
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