People dont know what they want

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People cry about preamdes, about loses. Ok. 1.U can join premade and play in premade and always win :trophy:. Typical answer: no, i dont want play in premade bcs its boring.
2. Ok u can play without premade and loses bgs. Typical answer: no i dont want play bcs i dont like lose.
3. Ok u can play rated bgs bcs its: SOLO queue, u cant meet preamdes (maximum duo) u play vs people your skill even if you 1500 player u just stack on 1500 and enjoy your games. Typical answer: no, i dont want play rated.

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They love to complain, and no matter how many options or brackets are available, none of them will ever be good enough.

Even if premades were banned they’d still find something else to whine about, because complaining is the one thing they truly excel at.

Might as well let them keep at it, it’s not like it’s going to change anything, or like anyone at Blizzard actually cares about these whiners, lol

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I don’t think that’s the problem. Premades against non-premades is the issue. People want as fair aplaying field as possible. A full or even partial team on discord can and will sway a battle.

You’re saying the same thing twice. Again, it’s about parties vs solo players.

Some people don’t like rated content and wish to play casual BGs in the hopes they don’t run into a team of sweats.

you tried to make an argument but just made the same point 3 times. You should think on what you actually want to say so you can clearly communicate it to others.

I do agree people want to complain more than they wish to play. They think if they are losing that somehow Blizzard can fix this for them. They can’t.

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You have no argument so you resort to straight-up insulting those making the points that you can’t answer.

Then you conjure an imaginary scenario about how people will act in the future. A scenario that is, of course, wrong. There are a lot of complaints because there is a very big, very specific problem. If the premade problem were to be effectively dealt with by Blizzard then you’d see a lot less of me on this forum and I suspect that the same is true for most others whom you - very whiningly, I must say - accuse of ‘whining’.

You, and all of the premaders who get off on facestomping weak opposition day after day whilst slowly killing the bracket, are on the wrong side of history on this one, mark my words.

Larkus is clearly not even worth talking to at this point. His whole life revolves around…

But there I go, getting baited into insulting the person when he can’t help being wired the way he is and really it’s Absentee Daddy Blizzard’s fault.

Blizzard, WHO SHOULD FIX THEIR DAMNED GAME!!!

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Best thing you said. If you don’t aim at some rating , you can still play and have better games there. You’ll win, you’ll lose …but that’s the game anyway.
I mean, if you want serious rated crap, find someone and play… those are mostly for fun.
The major problem , though… INSANE queue times.

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(for me at least), it’s less about winning & more about enjoying the game / the challenge -even if it results in a loss.

It’s neither fun, nor engaging to kerb-stomp randos whilst part of a queue-sync. It’s a guaranteed win before the gates open …so about as flex-worthy (& cringe) as killing critters & thinking you’re the bees knees.
-that’s why, when I find myself in an ebg with you guys, I’ll divert off to some outpost & fight my own little battles off to the side.

The flip-side -being GY farmed with no recourse. Where’s the fun? Who would keep signing up for guaranteed losses? This is one of the reasons why WoW will continue to lose players.

I think you guys are right about one thing though:
Sync-premades are (unofficially / passively) allowed.
Blizz clearly knows about the communities problem with sync (players have been crying about it for decades with new threads daily…) yet they continue to turn a blind-eye.

So with Blizz passively letting you guys circumvent their own restrictions, I understand why you’re emboldened to keep doing it. But you must have an understanding of why WoW PvP will stop growing & instead, bleed players…

I find myself only logging on for an hour or 2 a few days a week now -& when those hours are spent ‘playing’ unwinnable games, I’m even less inclined to bother logging in (…why would I? Why would anyone? What’s the ‘fun’ part again?)

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Well said.

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I do know what I want. I want LESS CC.

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Snares and mobility is the real problem.

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Typical loser mentality. Cheating to win all the games is one of the most boring things you can do in a video game.

If you really think Battleground Blitz and Normal/Epic Battlegrounds are the same thing you are even dumber than expected.

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this is from blizzards tos:

Cheating: Create, use, offer, promote, advertise, make available and/or distribute the following or assist therein:

  1. cheats; i.e. methods not expressly authorized by Blizzard (whether accomplished using hardware, software, a combination thereof, or otherwise), influencing and/or facilitating gameplay, including exploits of any in-game bugs, and thereby granting you and/or any other user an advantage over other players not using such methods;

so you are all using an addon or third party program to sync parties to do epic bg’s so how is this not against the tos?

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Wich addon? Can you say name? Can you say what he do? Why blizzard after 2 years didnt block this addon? Why everyone can install this addon official from curse forge? why did premades exist before this addon was made? do you think if people stop using the addon, premades will disappear?
Maybe after this questios your brain can start work

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question it all you want and resort to throwing insults but community flare is breaking tos we had this problem in tbc and wrath and they were quick to resolve the issue but since they became activision blizzard and now microsoft blizzard they seem to care only about the money but that is a quote from blizzard own tos and clearly states its breaking the tos.

community flare gives you an unfair advantage you are not able to queue into epic bgs normally as a full raid group and you are abusing said addon to queue as a raid group to what make your small meaningless life better by getting the upper hand vs low geared and out healed opponents grow up scrub no wonder people think the pvp community is dead with people like you in it.

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For example, in BFA I stood in the queue for 30 minutes, now it’s 5 minutes. Yes, yes, casual PvP is dying. Bizards don’t look at the snot on the forum, but at the real situation in the game and maintain common sense in this matter, which cannot but please PvP lovers.

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Larkus, what is this super addon that defeats everyone and which you hide from everyone? Why don’t I know about it?

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I think he means the third-party tool that the US premades used. They picked it up in some video and still don’t understand that only the US premades used it.
They don’t understand that Blizz tracked it down long ago and has already banned players for it.
They don’t understand that Blizz doesn’t take them seriously with their exaggerations and misinformation.
They don’t understand a lot of things, but they make a lot of noise in the forum.

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No one was banned for it unfortunately not even the guy who created it mesoxxxxxy. He still uploads his Pre vs pug games onto his yt channel to this day pretending its the coolest thing ever.

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Yep, they usless like rogues on epic bgs.
People know nothing, 0 information, people cant think but what they can - only write on forum nonsense

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The addon that you use is called Battleground Commander and ‘he’ does the following, directly quoted from the addon page:

"Queue Tools
This adds a bunch of tools that will help group leaders get the info they need to queue or cancel whenever needed.

Automatic Role Selection
You can enable automatic role selection for battlegrounds to reduce a manual step that delays entry.

Queue Entry and Decline Tools
When a queue entry window shows, for non-group leaders the “Enter” button is disabled by default, and additionally this button will be disabled if the group leader cancels. This behavior can be changed in the settings, and holding the shift button will re-enable the button. When the group leader enters the battleground and has Battleground Commander, it will also enable the Entry Button for non-group leaders.

The group leader has the ability to automatically do a ready check when a queue entry is cancelled and if not all group members declined within a certain time limit.

To help coordinate which group leaders gets an entry, and when this occurred, you can configure to see the server time inside the queue button. This format can be configured as either 12 or 24 hours, and can be configured to never show, show solo, and as group leader.

Group Information
This window can be accessed through the PvP window by checking the “Group Info” box. This list shows all players in your group and shows various bits of info used to queue. You can also do a ready check from here, and open the settings. You’ll be able to see the following information in the columns:

  • if that player has “Automatic Role Selection” enabled (BGC required by that player)

  • if that player has the Mercenary Contract buff, and how long remaining (BGC required by that player)
    status column which shows various bits of info:

  • ready check status

  • role selection status

  • deserter debuff remaining

  • if the queue entry window showed up

  • if that player entered (BGC required by that player)

  • if that player declined entry (BGC required by that player)

  • Player faction

Additionally you can also see who uses which addon by hovering over the window title, or the players themselves, and you can access the list of people who request lead. In the settings (QueueTools → Group Information) you can configure player names in Battleground Commander to be shown in several formats:

  • Never show the realm
  • Always Show the realm
  • Hide the realm when it’s the same realm as you are from (default Blizzard behavior)

Queue Pause Detection
Free choice of automatically notifying the group when the queue is paused, resumed, and doing a ready check to verify who is and isn’t ready. These options can also be limited to being a group leader or assist. Additionally, if someone else with this addon does an automated ready check, it will try to automatically accept it.

Battleground Tools
Extra conveniences for Battlegrounds.

Instructions Frame
This frame shows Raid Warnings from your raid leader with a time to indicate how long ago this message was sent. You can configure this frame to load only in specific zones, and it will filter out duplicate messages.

Requesting Lead
Users with this addon can request lead from other users with this addon. The leader will receive the option to give lead or reject the request, and remember the choice in the future. When the player with lead also wants lead, they will not get the popup, though they can add an exclusion per player to automatically give lead away.

Leader Setup
Allows the leader to automatically place a raid marker on themselves when they get lead, and lets the leader automatically assign assist to raid members based on their name.

Player Management
You can automate certain levels of player management:

  • Give them a nickname that appears in the Battleground Commander UI
  • Whether or not you want to automatically promote the player to assistant
  • Automatically try to mark the player with either a random icon, or a preferred icon

What to do when the user asks for lead through Battleground Commander:

  • Not automate it at all
  • Give them lead unless you want lead
  • Always give them lead, even if you want lead, which is useful if you off-lead and still want to automatically give it to a community leader
  • Automatically reject their request"

And you, Larkus, use all this functionality through your in-game Community’s chat channel.

Yeah, so this is the level of organised, automated rule-bending that we’re all up against and that is helping to kill the epic BG bracket.

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Usless addon. We can play without but with him better ofc. Bcs u can afk