On AV you can see enemy team after gate open. So i saw full horde team but when they see premade, 10 people leave and horde should fight 30vs40 so its auto lose. Before new changes people leave before gate open and team have time for new people join and they have full raid for fight. But now people should fight 30vs40. Lol
12 Likes
Agreed, terrible change. At least let people that don’t want to play the game leave before the game starts and replace them with people that want to play the game. Well, at least we still have the feature to backfill lost games 20 seconds before the other team wins. So that’s something where Blizz got it right, I guess.
2 Likes
How does that make any difference?
You play in sync premades. You would crush a full 40 man team just as easy because you stack high dps players and have better communication.
8 Likes
This is in all BGs now, not just AV. Is this change intentional or an oversight?
If it is intentional, I’m not sure what the purpose is? That the people who would leave before the BG starts due to real or percieved premades do not leave during the 2mins prep time but instead leave 10 secs into the BG? As OP said, this just further decreases the chance of a team to get a replacement. It doesn’t change anything for people who leave when they meet/think they meet a premade.
I hope this is a bug/oversight.
Yes, Q sync premades in Epic BGs are an issue and one of the symptoms is leavers who further exacerbate the issue, but preventing you from seeing the enemy team before the BG helps solve PvP issues about as much as a Trading Post pet…
3 Likes
In anothers epic bgs u can see enemy untill game start (around 10sec) but anyway not enough time for new people can join bg and first fight cant be 40vs40
The Hotfix doesnt change anything, we will still leave and play an other character. I dont want to waist my time to give you what you can’t have by yourself without your “friends”.
11 Likes
Oh didn’t know that. I guess that further raises the question what the point is. So people quit 10 secs before the BG starts rather than 2mins?
What does Blizzard expect this to be good for?
2 Likes
Xd i dont know. Usless changes
1 Like
Their entire point were to target the software/addon they used (cant confirm how much usage it had on EU) but it were heavily used on NA so it got to a point they had to do something about it. It was not to “shut down” syncing. It was to prevent that particular software/addon.
Only thing it really did, was to make it a more annoying 2 min wait before you can leave. Atleast for epic bgs.
1 Like
It have a huge impact these chsnges the random bgs are super chill now not filled with premade now the premades dont see anymore who will face before join battle ,so the way they did was que pop using addon to see who we face oh low geared people non premade join on other hand oh we face premade dont join que again so i will say these changes have a huge impact and should always be like this the fact that people leave in av vs premade have nothing to do with changes it was always like this , so gg blizz from my part these days had nice balanced ques
2 Likes
what is changed , i dont understand ?
People cant see anymore who they face in bgs before they enter
Thats gotta be a bug ?
When you enter a BG if you open your scoreboard you only see your own team and it shows “0” players on the enemy team. So you can’t tell who you face (though I imagine if you use addons you can anyway?). Apparently you only see the other team 10 secs before the BG starts and once it starts you see the scoreboard normally.
Ah ok. Thanks for explaining.
It is not a bug
2 Likes
ppl assume it’s about the qsync addons they use in US to qsync and qdodge, and several other things like the scouts they sent in to report if there were certain hard to beat ppl or other syncers on the other team which led to half empty teams.
However now its not possible to adjust your talents based on your opponents anymore before the game starts. They can better just only hide the names, and not the class/specs.
4 Likes
So we have three groups of players.
1: Premaders. Who dont carre rewards. They just enjoy killing uncordinated people.
2:People which dont enjoy ebg but want reward CP
3: True lovers of ebg
Problem is group 1. They like bulling others like IRL. Best way to fight it is always strike back but in this case u cant. In this case should step in higher power and brutaly slap them. Maybe ban for 3 months for ruining game for others would be fine or year 
Hunt leaders of premades like drug dealers and one by one ban them 
7 Likes
They compensate their skills issues and their ego problem. They were bullied all of their life and they need probably a therapy.
Not all of them, just some of them. Like someone who need our attention by posting messages like this one.
7 Likes
here comes the premader, doing 24/7 sync premades
3 Likes
you can see him in his live that he has mental issues
5 Likes