HC+ is not that bad. But why did they put all the loot in HC+? I know it is Naxx loot, but it is not worth the effort of HC+. It should be 213 from all bosses so people want to do HC+ not only for badges. And please fix Daily HC they should give for all not only 2-3 same dungeons every day.
Assuming nothing is broken Random Number Generator is just that. Random. You can get same quests multiple times in a row with bo protection.
You clearly haven’t heard an alt recently.
i know man lvl alt classic horrbol 1 to 80 take way too long need xp buff or dungen finder
For me it’s more about them being annoying and unfun. I mean it’s the same principle as Flame Leviathan. Is it difficult? No, on normal mode my guild went in basically blindmode and oneshot it, two weeks later we did hardmode within 1 hour of progress, with more than half of the raid going in blind. Is it fun? No, just clunky and annoying, like all types of vehicle combat in this game.
Same goes for HC+. Not difficult at all, but affixes like Gundrak/DTK and AN/OK are just annoying and awkward. Playing as a shaman, having to repop magma totem every time the tank repositions to be able to use my main aoe ability is just a headache. The only somewhat interesting affix for my taste is the HoS/HoL one. Rest just doesn’t bring anything to the table other than annoyance.
Edit. Oh and the fact that HC+ isn’t on a separate tab than regular heroics. I haven’t touched any alt since Ulduar patch, but I can imagine it being less than optimal trying to find a group for any regular heroic these days.
I dont want more. I want less. I want the game to be CLASSIC like it was. I mean Blizzard had one job. just one job. Keep it as it was.
Seriously. I dislike raids (too time consuming). I dont like PVP and I hate farming.
I enjoyed doing HCs on all my different classes. Now its just pure frustrating. Half of the groups wipes etc. I dont enjoy them now. They are more like a pain.
its a retail feature!
WOTLK was the pinnacle of 5 man dungeons. Its a mess now. Really unfriendly for fresh chars.
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I wiped more in UBRS and stratholme than i have on heroic + with my new dinged char. Still there is an option to do normal hcs, problem is no one did, the gear wasnt also enough for the mindset ppl have today. ppl now assume full p1 bis aint enough for ulduar.
What? No it wasn’t.
WoTLK was the pinnacle of braindead dungeon grinding. You ran in, completely ignored all the mechanics and pressed your AoE/cleave abilities and watched everything die in seconds.
You might as well play diablo if that’s what you want your dungeon experience to be.
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The only solution i am seeing is to add rdf for normal/hc dungeons at this point. Its a tank and spank anyway.
Let people create manual groups for hc+.
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I mean, diablo type games are rather popular.
We already have the harder content.
The whole RDF relied on overgeared carries. If thouse would attend to H+ only, RDF would soon be a place of most toxic and failure environment of most lazy casuals and most impatient FotM rerollers.
RDF, when it launched in WotLK, still only had WotLK dungeons and heroics in it.
There was no need to have overgeared carries.
So don’t apply RDF to H+, this would be native to the feature they stole from retail anyway.
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Have you really tried to do that?
Let me tell you. On my server if I sign up with a healer and type that I only want regulars. The first 10 invites will be from HC+
Before HC+ I could do LOADS of Normal HC every day. Now its a struggle to find.
And people also skip run a lot.
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I’m honestly shocked that it’s only 10 
For all the whining people did about “wah I need an authenticator to post notes on the lfg tool” the lack of reading notes is utterly hilarious to me.
Oh, Green Jesus! It was introduced in 3.3.0. I remember people farming primal saronite via emblems of frost in RDF. And ICC 5ppl dungeons werr full of carries geared in ToC items. Not mentioning other heroics that piece of cake and AoE clown finest thanks to their gear.
After they added HC+, I didn’t run a single HC dungeon. And I dont think I will in future. I am not sure but I guess most people have it same. I can’t imagine how hard and annoying forming HC must be today.
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Emblems of frost was only rewarded for the first random dungeon of the day.
It was only a considerable profit every 9 days if you were farming dungeons only…
You sure remembering it right, lol?
I also remember doing sometimes more dps than the TOC geared one because he/she didnt know how to play the class. It was 2010 back then and only a few knew that they have a interrupt button. Makes a huge difference.
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No kiddin, that didn’t make them hard. It’s the exact same they’re doing now.
Cause the new 5 mans had an ilvl requirement.
Lol, even IF it was the case. I remember some ppl doing randoms hcs because they wanted to show off lol.
Besides… carried… really? Hc dungeons?
You are joking right?
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We did it for emblems, same way we do H+ for emblems now.
For all the crappy changes they’ve made to WotLK it hasn’t changed diddly squat.