Preach.
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80% dislikes under every wow video prove you wrong.
Next thing you’ll say - youtube rewind 2018 is fine and cool video
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This isn’t necessarily true, people might actually hate BFA, because it is not that good compared to other expansions…
People don’t have to be influenced by other players, to hate an expansion
For example the things I hate in BFA
- No Master Loot (I am not Raiding because of it, I will drop out of the raidgroup due to bad luck… (I never get a single Item through personal loot, the last Time I did a raid, I had to get all my loot from my raid team, I didn’t get a single Item through the roll)
- Titanforging is still a thing (it was already a thing in Legion and I already hated it back then)
- I hate the Island expeditions, when I first saw a Video of it, I was already bored of those
- the warfronts are fun though (unpopular oppinion)
- I hate the faction war theme here, I expected Void lords and old gods… (I know they are comming, but a faction war is really out of place here)
- Sylvannas is acting illogical here (she is supposed to be a cold and calculating leader, yet she considers raising more forsaken and gaining immortality as more important as saving azeroth (seriously, where does she think she will go, if azeroth blows up, due to not saving her))
- While levelling through BFA, it felt like leveling backwards… you got weaker instead of stronger (you lost too many abilities from Legion and got nothing in return (pruning))
And to say another thing, I already lost my hype about BFA almost directly after the cinematic reveal, because after I thought about it for a second, I relized how little sense all of this makes
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I don’t like the design of
Go to a spot, pick up 2 quests
Do those, turn in and get 3 more quests
Do those, turn in and get one final quest
Do that, turn in and move on to the next mini-hub
Rinse & repeat
There is more walking up and down than actually doing quests. Also the scaling, no feeling of progress. What’s the point of gearing if everything keeps feeling the same way? Especially with it now being harder than ever to navigate between the mobs to not get in unnecessary fights with wolves or something. Like they care about the faction war?
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This is true a lot of the initial undue negativity towards this expansion was brought on largely by “popular” streamers, who in turn have massive influence over their viewers who view them on a daily basis for hours on end.
I read countless posts on these (and US) forums from players with apparently very little experience in-game criticising BfA about things they probably have never done-- and in fact some actually legitimately haven’t done content they were being negative of— it was obvious it’s not their own true opinion, but something they’ve heard and are mindlessly following it.
Sadly, this doesn’t just happen with games. It’s happening on a larger scale, losing the capacity for individual thought and capacity— so instead, we just hear, listen, zap-- that’s definitely what we must all think without any evidence or personal experience. Sad!
Thankfully, I’ve only seen very few narrow minded people in this forum with obviously 0 experience in extra sensory perception criticising other people about their thoughts - even when certainly nobody has a mind reading tool at their disposal. Look below at how well you have established the facts in your argument for a moment, I am not attacking you here!
It is sad but, a lot of the initial and current undue optimism towards this expansion has been brought on by “popular” youtubers, who in turn have massive influence over their viewers who view them on a daily basis.
I have flipped your argument with 0 effort simply because there’s nothing backing it up. It’s just an attempt to belittle others simply because they disagree with you.
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Are you influenced by mass opinion, when you agree with something that others agree with? If not, then why do you assume other people are so different from you? Do you think you are such a special snowflake, capable of independent thinking, and others are not?
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Yes, look at the GCD threads. the OPs and most posters dont even know what the GCD is.
Back when MoP was current it was the worst expansion pack ever and TBC was awesome and Wrath was becoming awesome.
Now, MoP was perfect and BfA sucks.
Social media creates the hive-mindless.
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It’s pretty clear that a lot of people are easily influenced by others and refuse to form their own opinion.
However,it’s also quite clear that BFA is one of the weaker expansions Blizzard has made in the history of WoW.
No, when MoP was current, Cata was the worst expansion pack ever. I was there, I remember the threads. And I was facepalming then as much as I’m facepalming now at those statements because neither MoP nor Wrath reached the best parts of Cata (though they came close).
What about the ones that do know? 
My opinion is unpopular when it comes to that but I’d prefer if everything was on the gcd - but that’s another discussion.
If there’s some actual, real evidence that suggests that people are basing their opinions of bfa based on outside influence, just present it. If not, I can just as easily claim hive-mindless fanboys with nothing to back it up 
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No… I came back from 2 years afk for BfA, along with a number of ex-guildmates from as far back as TBC. I really wanted it to be good, because I genuinely enjoyed the raids back in WotLK and even Cata.
But half of them drifted away, and eventually so did I. A few are still going for it, but the team has split up and gone to separate guilds now so I really have very little reason to return.
Why did they go? Because they grew up since TBC. We’re all older, we all have more stuff to handle in our day-to-day, and WoW is currently about as time-wastey as I have ever seen it. Nothing feels worthwhile (low rewards), and all of it feels mandatory (AP from everything means everything contributes to your character a little bit).
This is not a good state for grown ups, since either we feel guilty for wasting our precious/short playing hours, or we feel guilty for letting the team down.
Titanforging HAS made this worse, imho. I’m not hunting a 10% drop chance; I’m hunting that 1% titanforge of a 10% drop. I can’t run each M+ an average of 500 times to get a decent drop, and I feel like I’m letting the raid down if I don’t try. So I stopped raiding, because the only way out of a no-win game is not to play it.
But I would love WoW to be compelling enough to tempt me back for a couple of hours per day. I don’t want it to demand every waking minute; just enough to fill the later half of my evening when nothing else needs doing.
Perhaps that means I don’t get to raid at mythic level. But the thing is that’s the only content I care about. The rest is filler to me.
edit: not sure why I bothered writing this out. OP is probably just stirring rather than actually being interested in why people feel the way they do. Maybe I’m foolish enough to believe a Blizzard employee might read this and wonder if just maybe they’ve done something that’s turning mature players away and if they could revisit the game design…
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Still is.
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Jk LOL! was just a prunk bro!
I rather liked Cata. Unfortunately all people remember is the crappy DS raid. It was utter poop. It was a poor finish to an expansion unlike ICC. Personally I’d prefer wrath but that’s probably due to the fact it was my first proper expansion.
Most people dont though. They argue someone else’s [not intended] talking points with no clue what they mean. What’s the GCD? It sucks, remove it. What is it… Ehm…
I was debating with someone yesterday that RNG has been in WoW since vanilla. Their response… it wasn’t.
I didn’t suggest that outside influences are the reason, just people now have that mentality rather than using their brains to actually think through what they say. No talent streamers stoke this ignorance to get views.
Look at the Diablo mobile reaction. Most people still dont know that a D4 is still in development and has been for a long time. Look at the Activision bogeyman stuff we’re back to without knowing what the relationship the two separate entities have.
The internet has given us the ability to find out almost everything we need to know but people as just as, if not more, ignorant than ever.
That’s terrifying when you think about it.
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Ok, that’s amusing 
But if I look at it carefully I understand that point - even when it’s clearly false. RNG has always been there but sometimes it’s perceived as “oh damn things are taking a bad turn” and sometimes it’s perceived as “all I see is die rolls”. It’s a question of how well integrated it is in the game design - same applies to the GCD. It can feel like an extra level of gameplay or an extreme annoyance. Nothing is done in vacuum 
Oh yes, but it’s the same thing as ideology to some extend. Perception and interpretation of events isn’t the same as data collection and analysis. If it was we wouldn’t have science, philosophy would be enough (and it was for a long time, when we still knew that the earth was the centre of the universe etc.)
Don’t go into D4 or DI. Most people don’t know that the expansion after BFA is in development But in the here and now it doesn’t seem to affect peoples’ feelings. And this is what a lot of the responses come down to - not what things are but how things feel. I’d find that terrifying if it went to work - like building a bridge, a house or insulating nuclear power plants When it comes to art and entertainment I think going on how something feels isn’t that bad
How dare you! All jokes aside, I still find cata to be the best expansion I played in “modern” wow or post TBC wow. At least before it was dumbed down.
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Heh, all I can say is that I only lasted a few months before quitting, and that whole first season was terrible. I literally have no good memory whatsoever of Cata.
Fool. 10 characters
I didn’t play legion so some of the changes might have been changes already implemented from legion. However these are the things I dislike. I would also add that I am quite entitled to complain and dislike it as £100 is quite a bit of money to me as always I went with a 6 month sub+expansion.
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The GCD this change irks me
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Simplification i.e. death knights having all Thier runes converted to one type, removed anything complex about PvP or over rotation or otherwise.
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The prune,this happened in wod but at least still had a full action bar and my gameplay didn’t feel like I was twiddling my thumbs in between playing
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Azerite grind horrible
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Azerite gear is horrible full of passive buffs that add nothing to the game that tier armour didn’t, to me it feels worse and less satisfying.
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Range loot, this I probably hate most of all, it stinks of diablo influences. Don’t get me wrong I like diablo and play it, but just the wrong game for artificial extended gameplay like this thanks.
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Mythic + for the same reason as 6 it feels like rift tiers in diablo all over again.
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My 46th pair of PvP boots whilst I rock a green offhand. Hideous.
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No honour gear no PvP vendors no tier gear. No completion feeling to your armour set. It just feels bad, hard to explain but I generally feel very unsatisfied
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Gated content from wq reps and otherwise
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These are conclusions I have reached entirely on my own without looking at the negativity that admittedly reinforces my beliefs but did not ignite them.
Also warmode horrible, especially 8.1 changes yuk.
I find it mediocre, and my biggests gripe are the god awful anti-social features in the game. Not to mention, there is no MMO in this game outside your usual friends / guilds. No matter how many times blizz tells you otherwise. They are in denial.
Just look at questing for example, you might as well just be thinking your playing with NPCs.
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