Thanks for your long and thoughtful post Brigante. I feel that my points have since been clarified while you were writing your posts (and as a result, some of your responses to my opinions are not always touching the exact subject I’m making), but there’s some bits and parts I wish to comment on your post about.
This, is essentially what my post is all about, in regards to count Dankula’s case.
I’m unaware of the British law myself, but in Finland, essentially your action has to be both “against the goodwill” and “Have a malicious intent”, in order for your speech to be considered either as a threat or as an incitement of violence. You need both to mark is as a criminal offence- You certainly can not be prosecuted just for saying something.
In his case, I feel that neither of those two requirements were filled- And I mean, even if I chose to patronizingly say that by making the video public, he made it “against the goodwill” by being offensive, there’s still no proof to showcase that he made it with malicious intent- On the contrary, that’s what all the context shows.
Your examples regarding campuses sound like completely reasonable. If these groups are frequent offenders (in that they have ill-intent such as causing harm to a group of people), or associate themselves with people like that, I feel it is (reasonable) to deny them the opportunity, or at the very least demand an investigation on them before a decision made.
My campus examples, on the other hand, were about mainly American comedians who have had their appearances cancelled, because they had the habit of making jokes about touchy subjects, varying from gender, identities, and alike.
This is where I disagree with you (a bit). I think when people hear the term “Multi-culturalism”, they don’t really appreciate all the implications it has.
To give you a prime example, look at the USA. Clearly, when it was first discovered, it was designed to be a relatively similar culture oriented, white-european culture world with relatively few differences among the cultures. This was kind of thrown off a lot when slavery became (thankfully) banned, hispanics and asians immigrated, and so on.
Now, I’m not saying that different cultures can’t live together- On the contrary, both muslims, christians and jews had long periods of time where they lived peacefully in same areas, and alike.
However, where the problems start to arise is when you try and push those cultures together- By forcing them to integrate into one, and this is more-or-less the paradox of the multiculturalism- It’s premise is to actually, in the modern age, mix up the cultures so that we’re all the same. Now, that I am vehemently against because not only does it discourage different ideas from blooming, but also it infringes upon the right of cultural integrity.
There’s a reason London has a chinatown, areas for muslims, and areas for indian folk. Birds of feather flock together, nothing wrong about that. The problems start when you start to forcibly mix people together, be it through quotas, or forcing different people to accept and/or integrate the values of another cultural group- Middle east crisis, IRA back in the day, and current BLM and other movements are all products of these events.
Now, I am -not- advocating for the return of Apartheid or anything similar. I want everyone to have equal rights and opportunities, and so on. I am however advocating for the fact that we absolutely should keep our hands and minds away from trying to integrate people into our ways (rather: We only invite people who have already accepted the values or close-enough cultural views), or trying to force co-existance.
Muslim views on women and western views on women, for example, are a case where the two values are completely incompatible.
Instead of “multiculturalism”, I’d rather promote cultural integrity within countries- Which is why I am very pro “Selective immigration”.
Now, about jobs escaping overseas- My original point wasn’t the fact that they are going overseas, my point was that the answers people have been given regarding them have been very lacking, and part of why the reactions are happening the way they are is because they were not listened to.
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