[Harrowing Sigh]
is it the one where you fight dracula with modern day glasses
Fighting the gods was one thing. Watching them all brute justice themselves into a divine robot so they could all peace out made me physically cringe.
No pandamonium was okay. It was myths of the realm. Loved the music hated the concept
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Yeah. I could see how dwarven warriors (plus those half-vrykul homebrewed OCs you see every now and then on the Alliance) would have a field day - but for my part, it really was a weak as heck order hall.
Plus Odyn is the worst. Canât wait to bring some Valajar-smackdown on him one day.
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I have the exact opposite opinion. Pandemonium (and Elpis by extension) ruined a lot of the mystery of FF14âs setting and had pretty bland music. Somewhat interesting final boss in the form of âwhat if Hydaelynâs role had gone to someone far more selfishâ but everything leading up to it was agony. Myths of the Realm was pretty heartwrenching towards the end when your goals are clear and seemed to tell the message Elpis tried to convey without losing any of the mythical aura around it.
Hot tip for any writer, aint no quicker way to demystify your setting than forcing your character to sit down in a 21:st century designer apartment and drink tea with God and Satan like youâre visiting a book circle and then try to play it off with memory loss.
In other news, I seem to have just turned 32 about now. Though I canât say I feel like a birthday boy atm.
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Happy birthday!
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have they considered being better people? that way they wonât get obliterated by my orbital laser
eso deals with it at least without having to deal with talos as he (thankfully) wont be born for another 200-ish years in the canon. The older pantheon which only got briefly touched on in Skyrim is more alive due to the empires regression leaving nordâs to their own faith and devices. my nord only ever refers to the divines by their nordic names such as kyne, jhunal, stuhn etc.
i agree some races can get down with the vibe. i imagine its the horde races that have the hardest time because partying with the golden progenitors of humanityâŚ
i can genuinely forsee him squealing to the pantheon how were all corrupt for what vyranoth and wrathion did.
my oppinion on the raid tiers can be split. both had moments i found enjoyable, both had some i didnt. i enjoyed mythâs going deeper into the interactions of faith with the mortal world, while i also deeply loved the final closure with Themis at the end of Pandamonium. i think the disconnect for me is when you realise both the gods as much as the convocation were just your co-workers, friend and aquaintances at one point. the wol is only a shard of azem butâŚit adds a layer of emotional difficulty to both scenarios to me.
Damn you share it with my mam. Happy birthday Des!
âDo you remember that time you didnt say âbless meâ when you sneezed? The Light remembers BarryâŚâ
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I am writing my gods like this one NPC in Summoner 2 who apparently WAS a god but has no followers anymore so is now mortal.
So, the gods power is proportional to how many people still worship or actually believe in them.
I know this was also kinda what American Gods (at least the TV show) touched on but I never read the book and Neil Gaiman is stinky.
Also deffo inspired by the fact you fight gods as basic mobs in SMT3.
What in the sixth hell is the deal with people going feral at showings of the minecraft movie?
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No idea but itâs so dumb. Throwing popcorn everywhere, ugh.
Tiktok as per usual.
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Someone brought a live chicken. I have no words.
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I know that, at least in my area, movie theatres arenât exactly checking bags when you go in/out, but how did no one notice a live chicken.
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Tell him heâs taking the Secret Hitler part a little too seriously.
But uhh, basically to me how everyone else reacts to it also reflects on them a lot. If the group leader is fine with it, then he also shares those views. I would try to get everyone who yâknow, is normal to collectively say either heâs out, or weâre out. I donât know how much the game depends on having a group leader, but surely one of you could just become the new leader and find two new players for it?
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Mild disagree here. I think you can have nuance even in simplicity. A bit of a paradox but let me explain. In WotLK and Classic, moral complexities and nuances were there, they were usually reserved for the playable races however.
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The Defias Brotherhood, the growing Stormwind corruption, the struggles of the orcish culture (Thrall vs Garrosh), and so forth. And most often, quests and books would flesh out economic issues for the Alliance and the Horde: the Horde needing lumber, and therefore invading Ashenvale, and the night elves being pissed at that. It all made sense and, while the Horde were the aggressors, it made them still somewhat sympathetic, because they needed that lumber. The situation was made even more complex when Thrall had to deal with a culture who, until a while ago, was made only of warriors who valued the right of conquest. It was a hard and compelling challenge! There was nuance, but it was still simple and straightforward.
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I think this approach worked well back then, but by BFA it had been indeed tossed out of the window and was replaced with a cheap plot device such as Azerite. And we never got this back again.
To complain about the above, what I find todayâs narrative lacks is a cohesive story-telling that brings coherence and inner struggles to the world of warcraft. Each expansion - even now that we have a saga - feels very much disjointed from the other one, and there isnât really a feeling of connection between one another aside from looming threats.
On top of that, almost all races had conflicts of their own. The tauren vs grimtotem, the dwarves and the dark iron, the undead had Varimathrasâ loyalists. But now pretty much all of these new plot points have been solved or shoved in a closet (Magatha), and are occasions to create new ones (conflicts within the forsaken as they change would make sense) are non-existant.
Whatâs changing for the race I play? How do the night elf feel about Amirdrassil now? Humans are⌠doing anything, beside having Anduin and Jaina struggling existentially? And dwarves? Their Queen and son are elsewhere, what is Ironforge doing? A chance to see some perhaps corrupt politician from the Bronzebeard refuse a dark iron on the Throne? âŚWhatâs even going on in Ironforge?!
Theyâve built amazing cities and created great cultural archetypes, that was nuance, but still accessible and easy to reach. However now they seem eager to move away from them (watchers changing their mind on arcane magic) rather than expand upon what made people fall in love with these people when they first saw them.
And it is such a shame!
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Whyâre my dreams always so wild/screwed up 
Iâm happy my alarm woke me up when it did. Was having a nice nap and then BANG! Screwed up stuff started happening. It involved people, fire, being trapped, and having to eat your own arm to escape. I was watching. AHHHHHH.
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@Telaryn @Crystie
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Honestly itâs not just the writing itâs the zones themselves. I love tww⌠mostly. But it isnât a world built for narrative exploration, itâs one built to get a shiny thing.
Sure thatâs true if the old world but, to me, there a sharp and distinct difference in presentation.
The new zones are technically prettier (though id argue that point tbh) but they lack any soul or charm. People could say thatâs nostalgia talking but Iâm praising cata zones at this point so that is unlikely.
To me even the skybox is just⌠lifeless.
Itâs hard to rp in them because they just donât feel like places in a wider world , they feel like paintings and the story, whilst not bad, certainly not as bad as half the peeving would suggest, is equally as soulless.
Blizzards had a real talent shift and the new talent does not have the same vision as the old and they clash hard.
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