sounds about right
I am going to say that it is either Sins of the Father or Song of the Elves, the OSRS reimaginations of the Within the Light / Plagueâs End / The Light Within, and The Branches of Darkmeyer / The Lord of Vampyrium.
It captures the basic story beats of the original questline in RS3, but omits much of the more cosmic themes that modern RS3âs storyline ended up adapting, and instead retelling the same story in the more grounded and mysterious world building Runescape used to have before The World Wakes.
Although I love Seren (and hate what Iâm told she became in the end recently) and Zaros, the god related quests worked so much better when they were mysteries and their relation with the world was explored through their followers trying to bring back the return of the gods. The world felt more mysterious back then. Now youâre literally fighting the Literal Creators Of The Entire Setting.
The OSRS reimaginations of those quests feel like what could have been had they tackled on the Vampire and Elf quest finales in a pre-World Wakes setting where the gods hadnât returned yet.
With Song of the Elves
you have a compelling villain in Lord Iorwerth who isnât made out to be a Sauron to Morgoth, but instead a wounded and desperate man who wanted to do right by his people and reunite with Seren at any cost, but in his grief he was misguided into releasing the Dark Lord. But also the Dark Lord is a sympathetic figure with her being the darkness Seren created in her attempt to save the elves out of love when Guthix banished the gods, an act which would have killed them all due to her binding their lives to her.
All Dark Seren ever wanted was to be loved by her, and itâs implied the only reason she darkened was because Seren was horrified by what she had done in her experiments with death magic to create an immortal shard of herself to bind the elves to in her absence. This shard of Seren wouldnât have darkened if not for being sealed away, and thereâs a running theme of wounded love in Song of Elves that I really adored. The dialogue was incredibly well written. Also frick Essyllt, he can burn in hell.
With Sins of the Father
You have another compelling story written by the same guy who wrote Song of the Elves exploring the desperation of the civil war the Myreque were conducting, and the people theyâve lost along the way. Are they the same people they started off as if theyâre willing to ally with other vampires in a bid to overthrow Drakan? Theyâre in bed with the same vampires who theyâre trying to overthrow in the hopes of settling for a lesser evil, and the revelations along the way of what actually happened to Queen Efaritay and King Ascertes.
The reveal was beautifully written and I love the moment of contemplation pre-battle about how far youâve come and making peace with the fact that not everyone will walk out alive if youâre going to storm Drakan in his own castle. The story ending on a hopeless note after building yourself up as a symbol of hope was a bittersweet twist when the lies were exposed. I am really looking forward to the final installment of the story and seeing how you, Veliaf, and Ivan recover.
" You are Gangrel!"
Ok then.
p.s. @Meruru we recently got Land of the Goblins in OSRS and confirmed theyâll be finishing The Chosen Commander at some point which I am immensely looking forward to. I love Zanik, simple as. Frick Bandos.
Also weâre getting some Desert Treasure II vibes with the Beneath Cursed Sands being released recently which tackles Amascutâs ascension. Believe me when I say that the lore is about to get spicy with the Menaphos foreshadowing in the end.
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itâs goblin time
Got bored, soâŚ
The Loras Official Ranking Guide for VtM Clans & Bloodlines
S-Tier - Banu Haqim, Cappadocian, Nosferatu, Tzimisce
A-Tier - Gangrel, Hecata, Malkavian, Lasombra, Ministry, Salubri
B-Tier - Toreador, Baali, True Brujah, Tremere
C-Tier - Ventrue, Panders, Giovanni, Ravnos
Although tbh my ranking of the various clans changes by the day, depending on whose lore Iâm deep-diving at any given time.
I bump Lasombra down a tier because they are so obscenely overpowered that itâs not funny
My friend played a lasombra rebel in our campaign and if it came to combat she could instantly kill just about anything with shadow tentacles or banishing nerds to the shadow realm
arenât lasombra just the funny hackerman?
Imagine rating things based on their mechanics and potential gameplay power rather than just focusing on how cool their lore is
Thatâs just the personality test correctly identifying you as an animal person.
Iâm not too familiar with the RS3 lore, I have to admit. I did Plagueâs End back in the day and then moved solely to OSRS in part due to the shift you mentioned. Everything started revolving around me a little too much for my tastes and while Iâm not opposed to escalation or big, dramatic world ending stakes. I did also come back for the Tuska event for a month since it looked cool, but I was very much hit with a âI really donât like this sports team-esque god stuff going on.â
Most of what Iâve heard about the game was from a friend who kept playing until recently, and they basically said âyeah, itâs pretty fatiguing with its constant escalation. Theyâve trampled a lot of good story beats from previous quests.â
Very glad to hear the OSRS team is knocking it out of the park with keeping things from going too wild, while still telling great stories.
Iâm always down for something Amascut related. Icthlarinâs Little Helper is a quest I remember fondly. Would 100% play Chosen Commander again too.
Hope they do Fairy Tale part 3 at some point too, although itâll require revamped rewards or an entirely new quest. A lot of the rewards from it ended up being scattered elsewhere. I know the tooth implant you got that let you use the ring network without a dramen staff isnât going to be a reward since you can travel without a staff as a diary reward now.
iâm just saying if youâre Sabbat and that powerful, why have you not simply taken over the world (of darkness)
Because the common mooks of the Sabbat can just be found absent-mindedly drooling on any night when theyâre not just committing ultra violence
Their philosophy is that if you wanted a repeat of the same thing, you can just play the RS3 version with cosmic gods. With OSRS they want to stick to the spirit of the Old School project and capture the themes of how runescape used to be. That translates to the lore as well, dialing it back and retelling the same story through a more grounded lens.
I treat it as an alternate timeline where Sliske didnât murder Guthix, but the same âfixed pointsâ in the time happened in the context of this new timeline, thus the repeat of the same storylines through another perspective. Thereâs some canon justification for this school of thought with the cosmic Needle thing.
Now what I want to see is While Guthix Sleeps retold. My heart isnât ready, but I know Lucien is inevitable.
This is my biggest concern with Fairy Tale III. They can finish the story and thatâs cool and all - but what do we get out of it that we canât already get through the Diaries? For a quest of FT3âs calibre, the rewards should be worth the effort if it retains the same classification.
Weird, there was only one question asking about animals (but also picked talking to animals as a power)
Whereas there were a lot more about computers and internet
I remember the brief time I did get invested in Runescape lore I was a big fan of Guthix
why did they have to do me like this
Personally I wish theyâd have stopped at Ritual of the Mahjarrat. The Dragonkin goon Lucien, the Staff of Armadyl is shattered, and Sliske doesnât tape it back together or whatever the frick he did with it.
It means youâre the best of us and the worst of us.
Iâve yet to see anyone else get Malkavian and itâs starting to make me wonder. Introspection begone.
@Meruru thoughts on the datamined Dracthyr bulky model?
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I have a desire to re-re-re-redownload Inquisition and play a dorf
dodger what have you done